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GABA mixed in water and swished in his mouth before a meal prevents esophageal spasms /choking/vomiting, and allows him to swallow

April 1, 2022 By Trudy Scott 24 Comments

gaba in water

GABA mixed in water and swished in the mouth of an adult male, before a meal, prevents his esophageal spasms, and stops his frequent choking and vomiting, and allows him to swallow his food. A colleague shared her husband’s swallowing issues after she read my blog post about using GABA powder inside the check for laryngospasms. 

This is what she shared:

That [blog] made me think that [GABA] might be useful for my husband‘s esophageal spasms. He frequently can’t get food down during a meal because of them.

So he started mixing 500 mg GABA in a little water and swishing it around his mouth and then swallowing it at the beginning of each meal. Since he started doing that he has not had one spasm, or vomiting episode.

It’s wonderful to hear about her husband’s success with GABA and this unique application of swishing around GABA powder (mixed in water) in his mouth before a meal (I’ll share more on this aspect below).

I asked if they know what the causes of his esophageal spasms are but they don’t yet know:

We can’t figure it out. It appears to be all food. I would expect there to be a trigger-food, but we can’t find it.

The GABA has completely stopped it. Last night we went out to dinner and he forgot to bring GABA with him and immediately started choking. So he went to the nearest vitamin store, (of which there is only one)! Fortunately it was open. As soon as he got back to the restaurant and took his GABA, he was fine.

GABA does work so well for him and offers him some relief while they continue to search for other underlying root cause/s. Until these are found, GABA is supporting overall low GABA levels, associated with physical tension-type anxiety, intrusive thoughts, stiff and tense muscles in other areas of the body and also stress-eating and self-medicating with alcohol in order to relax. More on low GABA symptoms here.

My input on his dosing and swishing

Regarding the dosing and swishing method I have this input:

  • 500 mg GABA is the ideal dose for his needs but this is considered a high dose to start. For low GABA tension-type anxiety, I have clients start with a trial of 125 mg GABA and go up from there. I’d recommend the same approach for someone with issues like this gentleman experiences.
  • GABA is most effective when used sublingually or by opening a capsule on to the tongue or by using GABA powder on the inside of a cheek, rather than swallowing a GABA capsule. For this reason, his method of swishing GABA mixed in water is excellent for achieving the spasm-reducing and relaxing benefits quickly. For some folks doing this 30 minutes before a meal may be more effective than doing it right before eating.

The diagnosis can vary from person to person

The diagnosis can vary from person to person. But as long as there are spasms that are affecting swallowing, doing a trial of GABA is worthwhile in order to determine if it will help.

One example is eosinophilic esophagitis where

Clinical manifestations in infants and toddlers generally include vomiting, food refusal, choking with meals and, less commonly, failure to thrive. Predominant symptoms in school-aged children and adolescents include dysphagia (difficulty swallowing), food impactions, and choking/gagging with meals, particularly when comprised of foods with coarse textures. Other symptoms in this patient population include abdominal/chest pain, vomiting, and regurgitation.

The predominant symptom in adults is dysphagia [difficulty swallowing]; however, intractable heartburn and food avoidance may also be present.

One paper, Esophageal microbiome in active eosinophilic esophagitis and changes induced by different therapies discusses the role of the microbiome and how “an increase in levels of gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA) …is known to exert a role in esophageal motor function.”

Finding the other root causes (other than low GABA)

Regarding finding the root causes, other than low GABA, this is an important aspect that does need to be pursued. Here are some of the many factors worth considering:

  • Finding food triggers. This can be challenging but an obvious one is gluten which can play a role in eosinophilic esophagitis. Dairy and environmental irritants can be issues too.
  • GERD/reflux needs to be ruled out or addressed. Food sensitivities are often a factor here too.
  • Vagus nerve issues can play a role in digestive issues like this. GABA and vagus nerve exercises helped my cough and voice issues. I recorded all my exercises on video and you can find these here. Fortunately I didn’t have any swallowing or choking episodes at that time but have had a choking episode more recently (GABA did help) so I know how scary this can be.
  • Pyroluria, a social anxiety condition needs to be ruled out or addressed too. This is because nausea, gagging and choking are common symptoms for some individuals.
  • I’d also consider a tongue tie. I just finished reading Tongue Tied: How a Tiny String Under the Tongue Impacts Nursing, Speech, Feeding, and More (my Amazon link) by Richard Baxter, DMD, MS. The focus on babies and children but adults can also benefit from addressing tongue tie issues later in life.
  • Addressing gut health and the microbiome may be one of the keys, as outlined in the paper above.

This is not a comprehensive list and a full functional workup will help to identify all possible root causes.

Related blogs: young boy with choking episodes, lump-in-the throat sensation, anxiety and globus pharyngeus

Here are some related blogs that you may find useful

  • Paroxysmal laryngospasm with low GABA physical-tension-type-anxiety: Is GABA powder rubbed on the inside of the cheek a solution? (this is the blog that inspired my colleague to have her husband do the GABA mouth swishing)
  • GABA helps a stressed young boy with episodes of “choking” or tightening in his throat
  • GABA is the answer after 40 years of a lump-in-the-throat sensation, nervousness and muscle tension at work
  • Anxiety and globus pharyngeus (lump in the throat): GABA to the rescue?

Resources if you are new to using GABA as a supplement

If you are new to using the the amino acid GABA as a supplement, here is the Amino Acids Mood Questionnaire from The Antianxiety Food Solution (you can see the low GABA and other low neurotransmitter symptoms).

If you suspect low levels of GABA or low serotonin and do not yet have my book, The Antianxiety Food Solution – How the Foods You Eat Can Help You Calm Your Anxious Mind, Improve Your Mood, and End Cravings, I highly recommend getting it and reading it before jumping in and using amino acids on your own so you are knowledgeable. And be sure to share it with the team you or your loved one is working with.

The book doesn’t include product names (per the publisher’s request) so this blog, The Antianxiety Food Solution Amino Acid and Pyroluria Supplements, lists the GABA products that I use with my individual clients and those in my group programs.

If you don’t feel comfortable reading my book, doing the low GABA symptoms questionnaire and doing trials of GABA on your own, you can get guidance from me in the GABA Quickstart Program (online/virtual).

If you are a practitioner, join us in The Balancing Neurotransmitters: the Fundamentals program. It’s an opportunity to interact with me and other practitioners who are also using the amino acids.

Have you experienced throat or esophageal spasms and difficulty swallowing with choking and/or vomiting.

And do you have the low GABA physical-tension-type-anxiety symptoms?  What else is a trigger for you and do you have a diagnosis?

If you’ve already been using GABA with success for easing your anxiety, have you noticed a reduction in your swallowing issues?

Have you ever used GABA in this way to help your swallowing issues?

If you’re a practitioner please share what you have seen?

Feel free to ask your questions here too.

Filed Under: Amino Acids, Anxiety, GABA, Gluten Tagged With: anxiety, can’t get food down, choking, choking sensation, eosinophilic esophagitis, esophageal spasms, GABA, GABA Quickstart, globus pharyngeus, gluten, gut health, laryngospasms, lump in the throat, physical-tension, pyroluria, swallow, swallowing issues, swished, tongue tie, trigger-food, vomiting

DLPA (DL-Phenylalanine) eases PMDD/PMS symptoms in women who experience declining endorphin levels in the second half of their cycles

March 18, 2022 By Trudy Scott 23 Comments

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Mood swings, intense sugar cravings, comfort/binge eating, sadness, anxiety, crying, cramps and increased pain, irritability, anger, fatigue, cognitive dysfunction, overwhelm, feelings of unease and dissatisfaction, aggression, heartache, and/or insomnia are common for many women during the second half of the menstrual cycle i.e. in the luteal phase. You may relate to all or some of these symptoms. And you may have been diagnosed with or may identify with PMS (premenstrual syndrome) or PMDD (premenstrual dysphoric disorder – similar to PMS but more serious).

Research shows improvements of these symptoms with the amino acids tryptophan (which provides serotonin support) and GABA (which supports GABA levels). Although there is no research that the pyroluria protocol improves symptoms it’s something I see clinically all the time. (I’ve written about this extensively and share more on this below)

A really interesting study published in 1989 identified low endorphins and low catecholamines as a probable cause for some women – Prevention of Late Luteal Phase Dysphoric Disorder Symptoms with DL-Phenylalanine in Women with Abrupt β-Endorphin Decline: A Pilot Study

I recently came across the above paper and prior to this, had not considered this as a primary root cause. Here is the excerpt from the abstract:

Twenty-two women with late luteal phase dysphoric disorder were treated with DL-phenylalanine during the 15 days prior to menses in a double-blind crossover study.

DL-Phenylalanine was shown to be more effective than placebo in attenuating many symptoms characteristic of luteal phase dysphoric disorder. This amino acid was chosen because of its hypothesized actions in attenuating the symptoms associated with the sharp decline in central β-endorphin levels during the late luteal phase in women with luteal phase dysphoric disorder.

Let’s review a few terms… Late luteal phase dysphoric disorder is a synonym for PMDD. The luteal phase is one stage of the menstrual cycle and occurs after ovulation and before your period. When you feel dysphoric you feel very unhappy, uneasy, or dissatisfied. With the downward endorphin shift at this time, period pain and other pain can be worse, and weepiness and emotional symptoms increase. The need for comfort or reward eating also increases. The study authors suggest these PMDD symptoms may “closely resemble those seen during morphine or heroin withdrawal.”

Based on my experience I do feel comfortable extrapolating these findings to PMS and even peri and post-menopausal women who experience some or all of these symptoms (other than actual periods and period issues in post-menopausal women).

Study participants, dosing and timing of DLPA and improvements

The participants in the study were white, middle-class, and between 24 and 29. Each woman took one 750 mg of DLPA at breakfast and lunch for the 15 days prior to the expected onset of their periods.

In the study groups, it was found that “initial improvement started at the end of the first month of DLPA therapy. Continued therapy brought increased relief from symptoms by the end of the second month. Interestingly, the greatest period of improvement occurred during the washout period” at the end of the third month possibly due to a delayed action of DL-phenylalanine.

The authors make the following conclusion:

DL-phenylalanine was found to be safe, well-accepted, and without significant side effects. The significant improvement it produced with many of the symptoms characteristic of Late Luteal Phase Dysphoric Disorder [PMDD] suggests that it may prove a useful addition to the therapeutic armamentarium for this syndrome.

Keep in mind that a typical starting dose of DLPA is 500mg used 2-3 x per day and it’s typically used between meals for best effects. Ideal is also to customize dosing to your unique needs. In this study, everyone received the same dose at the same time. For these reasons it’s even more impressive to see results like they did.

It makes sense but I have just not used DPLA alone and only in the second half of the cycle

It’s a very small pilot study but given my experience with the amino acids DLPA, DPA and tyrosine, and the vast number of women I have worked with who had symptoms like the above, it makes sense. Using the above three amino acids in combination with dietary changes, tryptophan, GABA and the pyroluria protocol, this approach has offered relief for many of my clients. I have just not used DPLA alone and only in the second half of the cycle.

In case you’re wondering why I mention the three amino acids DLPA, DPA and tyrosine above, it’s because:

  • DLPA (the amino acid used in this study) supports both endorphins and catecholamines (dopamine is one of them)
  • Or DPA (supports endorphins only) can be used with tyrosine (supports catecholamines only) instead of DLPA which does both

I blog about the differences between DLPA and DPA here, together with all the symptoms we look at when considering doing a trial.

In this study, they used DLPA which boosts endorphins and catecholamines. As I share in my DPA vs DLPA blog, I prefer DPA (d-phenylalanine) for endorphin support when symptoms are severe. But DPA is not always available so DLPA is a good alternative, assuming the person can handle the catecholamine support. Some people can’t and there are some contraindications too.

I’d love to see follow-on research covering the following:

  • A larger group of women using DLPA
  • Individualizing the dosing of DLPA to each person’s unique needs
  • Correlating results with the low endorphin and low catecholamine symptoms questionnaire
  • Comparing DLPA alone with a combination of DPA + tyrosine (with each individualized based on unique needs)

Serotonin and GABA support for PMS/PMDD, and the pyroluria protocol

In this paper, Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder the authors share that PMDD

comprises emotional and physical symptoms and functional impairment that lie on the severe end of the continuum of premenstrual symptoms. Women with PMDD have a differential response to normal hormonal fluctuations.

It’s recognized that serotonin and GABA play a role:

This susceptibility may involve the serotonin system, altered sensitivity of the GABAA receptor to the neurosteroid allopregnanalone [a naturally occurring neurosteroid which is made from the hormone progesterone], and altered brain circuitry involving emotional and cognitive functions.

They share SSRIs that are considered as the first-line treatment. Second-line treatments include oral contraceptives, calcium, chasteberry, and cognitive-behavioral therapy.

However, as I share in this blog, research supports the use of tryptophan – Tryptophan for PMS: premenstrual dysphoria, mood swings, tension, and irritability

A study published in 1999, A placebo-controlled clinical trial of L-tryptophan in premenstrual dysphoria, tryptophan was found to reduce symptoms of PMS when used in the luteal phase or second half of the cycle (i.e. after ovulation).

I mention GABA in this blog and the fact that many anxious women I work with also have pyroluria or signs of low zinc and low vitamin B6 and adding these nutrients, together with evening primrose oil, provide additional hormonal and neurotransmitter support, and help with the social anxiety.

Resources if you are new to using DLPA (or other amino acids) as supplements

If you are new to using DLPA or the other amino acids as supplements, here is the Amino Acids Mood Questionnaire from The Antianxiety Food Solution (you can see the low endorphin and low catecholamine symptoms.)

If you suspect low levels of endorphins and/or low levels of catecholamine and do not yet have my book, The Antianxiety Food Solution – How the Foods You Eat Can Help You Calm Your Anxious Mind, Improve Your Mood, and End Cravings, I highly recommend getting it and reading it before jumping in and using amino acids on your own so you are knowledgeable. And be sure to share it with the team you or your loved one is working with. Blog posts like this are intended to add value to the chapter on amino acids, which contains detailed information on doses and time of the day for dosing.

The book doesn’t include product names (per the publisher’s request) so this blog, The Antianxiety Food Solution Amino Acid and Pyroluria Supplements, lists the amino acid products that I use with my individual clients and those in my group programs.

If you are a practitioner, join us in The Balancing Neurotransmitters: the Fundamentals program. It’s an opportunity to interact with me and other practitioners who are also using the amino acids.

Have you considered that there may be different types of PMS (premenstrual syndrome) or PMDD (premenstrual dysphoric disorder) i.e. a different combination of root causes and therefore different solutions?

And have you had success with DLPA alone (providing both endorphin and dopamine support) or by using a combination of DPA (endorphin support only) and tyrosine (catecholamine support only).

If you’re peri or post menopausal have you also seen success with any of these amino acids?

Have the other amino acids, tryptophan and GABA or the pyroluria protocol helped too?

If you’re a practitioner please share what you’ve seen with clients/patients.

Feel free to ask your questions here too.

Filed Under: Amino Acids, Anxiety, Hormone, PMS, Women's health Tagged With: aggression, anger, anxiety, catecholamines, Cognitive dysfunction, comfort/binge eating, cramps, crying, dissatisfaction, dl-phenylalanine, DLPA, endorphin, fatigue, feelings of unease, GABA, heartache, increased pain, insomnia, intense sugar cravings, irritability, luteal phase. premenstrual syndrome, menstrual cycle, mood swings, overwhelm, PMDD, PMS, premenstrual dysphoric disorder, pyroluria, sadness, second half of their cycles, serotonin, tryptophan

What is the difference between DPA and DLPA (amino acids) and which one do I use for weepiness, heart-ache, pain and energy?

March 11, 2022 By Trudy Scott 75 Comments

dpa and dlpa

Today we address a very common question I get: “What is the difference between DPA and DLPA?” The follow-up question is this: “And what symptoms do they help with?” These are both amino acids that help to boost certain feel-good neurotransmitters. DPA (d-phenylalanine) supports endorphins, whereas DLPA (dl-phenylalanine) supports both endorphins (to a lesser extent than DPA) and catecholamines (to a lesser extent than tyrosine).

Depending on your imbalances and symptoms, they could help with weepiness, heart-ache, comfort eating, emotional support, pain relief, better focus and energy, and even improved motivation.  

I mostly recommend DPA (which I call a-hug-in-a-bottle) and share the reasons why below, but some people do really well with DLPA. It’s a matter of figuring out the best one and dose for your unique needs.

DPA for low endorphin symptoms

DPA (d-phenylalanine) is an amino acid that destroys the enzyme that breaks down endorphins. Endorphins are feel-good chemicals that you experience with an endorphin rush when you go for a run or when someone gives you a big hug, when you show kindness to someone or an individual does something nice for you.

Taking the amino acid, DPA, as a supplement helps to raise your endorphins and helps when you feel weepy and overly emotional and reduces the need to self-medicate with treats as a reward or for comfort.

This amino acid is a favorite with so many of my clients and community because it makes them feel so lovely … a warm and fuzzy feeling. I often call it a-hug-in-a-bottle!

Here are the low endorphin symptoms I have my clients rate if they are considering a trial of DPA:

  • Heightened sensitivity to emotional pain
  • Heightened sensitivity to physical pain
  • Crying or tearing up easily
  • Eating to soothe your mood, or comfort eating
  • Really, really loving certain foods, behaviors, drugs, or alcohol
  • Craving a reward or numbing treat

Tyrosine for low catecholamine symptoms

Tyrosine is the amino acid that boosts catecholamines and helps with focus, motivation, energy (especially when you crave carbs for energy) and the blah kind of depression. It’s wonderful for helping you easily quit coffee/caffeine (when you are using it to “self-medicate” due to low catecholamines). It also provides support for the thyroid.

Here are the low catecholamine symptoms I have my clients rate if they are considering a trial of the amino acid tyrosine:

  • Depression and apathy
  • Easily bored
  • Lack of energy
  • Lack of focus
  • Lack of drive and low motivation
  • Attention deficit disorder
  • Procrastination and indecisiveness
  • Craving carbs, alcohol, caffeine, or drugs for energy

DLPA for both low endorphin and low catecholamine symptoms

If someone has both low endorphin and low catecholamine symptoms, a trial of DLPA could be considered.  DLPA supports both endorphins (to a lesser extent than DPA alone) and also catecholamines (to a lesser extent than tyrosine used alone). You could think of it as doing half and half of each.

Low endorphin symptoms:

  • Heightened sensitivity to emotional pain
  • Heightened sensitivity to physical pain
  • Crying or tearing up easily
  • Eating to soothe your mood, or comfort eating
  • Really, really loving certain foods, behaviors, drugs, or alcohol
  • Craving a reward or numbing treat

And low catecholamine symptoms:

  • Depression and apathy
  • Easily bored
  • Lack of energy
  • Lack of focus
  • Lack of drive and low motivation
  • Attention deficit disorder
  • Procrastination and indecisiveness
  • Craving carbs, alcohol, caffeine, or drugs for energy

Why I prefer my clients use DPA and tyrosine, rather than DLPA

Many people do well with DLPA (you can read one example below) but over the years I have streamlined my amino acid recommendations and seldom suggest DLPA. Here are the reasons why I prefer DPA:

  • DPA is not stimulating and doesn’t affect sleep. However, DLPA can be stimulating for anxious folks (and the majority of my clients have anxiety). For this reason, DLPA can not be used later than 3pm as it can affect sleep and for some folks with really bad sleep issues it can’t be tolerated later than mid-morning (in a similar way to tyrosine).
  • I like to have clients use DPA alone so we can clearly identify the benefits they are experiencing for their low endorphin symptoms and then use tyrosine alone so we can clearly identify their low catecholamine benefits.
  • There are no precautions or contraindications with DPA. However, DLPA has the same precautions as tyrosine. This limits using it for endorphin support. These are the precautions:
    • Overactive thyroid/Grave’s disease: tyrosine, DLPA (avoid)
    • Phenylketonuria (PKU): tyrosine, DLPA (avoid)
    • Melanoma: tyrosine, DLPA (avoid)
    • High Blood pressure: tyrosine, DLPA (watch)
    • Migraine headaches: tyrosine, DLPA (watch)
    • Bipolar disorder: tyrosine, DLPA, glutamine (watch)
  • The women I work with who do have low endorphin symptoms have reported superior benefits from DPA compared to DLPA, especially for emotional pain and emotional eating.
  • Some folks can’t tolerate tyrosine and these same folks have a hard time with DLPA.

The one disadvantage with DPA is that it’s not as widely and readily available as DLPA. It often needs to be purchased online (I list some brands below).

Here is some feedback from folks to give you an idea how these amino acids have helped them.

As you’ll see, there are some individuals who do well with DLPA so it’s really a matter of looking at the symptoms and doing a trial.

DPA helps Missy with weepiness and a deep heart-ache (and tastes like dark chocolate)

Missy shares how DPA helped her deep heart-ache sort of feeling:

I have found I was using this product incorrectly. If you are feeling fine, you do not feel much of anything from it. But today I was weepy and felt that deep, heart-ache sort of feeling. I chewed 1000 mgs (2 capsules) and it DID help lift that awful feeling within 15 minutes.

Notice that she said if you’re feeling fine you don’t feel much at all. This is true of all the amino acids – they only make a difference when you need them.

Missy said that she chewed the capsule, however around 2019, the gelatin capsule was replaced with a cellulose capsule. It’s much more palatable when it’s opened up into the mouth. I blog more about opening the capsule here.

She also reported what about half my clients say:

Tastes like slightly bitter dark chocolate 🙂

The remainder of my clients don’t like the taste at all, although many say the taste grows on them. I’ve always been in the dark chocolate camp and find it quite pleasant tasting.

DLPA helps Toby with energy and pain relief (he has CFS and fibromyalgia)

Toby has a diagnosis of CFS (chronic fatigue syndrome) and fibromyalgia and shared how DLPA helps him:

I’ve played around with (I think) all variations of these aminos and have found unequivocally (in the sense of definite and fast observable changes as opposed to none) that DLPA is the one that works for me. I have wondered what that means. I am male, 45, diagnosed with CFS and fibromyalgia and have speculated that in lay terms the DLPA gives me a bit of energy and pain relief (endorphins). Is that a logical conclusion?

He posted an image of the DLPA product he used and said this:

After putting it on my tongue, very quickly I get an agreeable boost in energy and pain relief. I have not experienced this with DPA or tyrosine.

Based on what I’ve covered above with the symptoms you can see that Toby has made a very logical conclusion. He is getting both endorphin support (the pain relief) and catecholamine support (the energy).

Resources if you are new to using DPA or DLPA as supplements

If you are new to using the amino acids DPA or DLPA as supplements, here is the Amino Acids Mood Questionnaire from The Antianxiety Food Solution (you can see the low endorphin and low catecholamine symptoms.)

If you suspect low levels of endorphins and/or low levels of catecholamine and do not yet have my book, The Antianxiety Food Solution – How the Foods You Eat Can Help You Calm Your Anxious Mind, Improve Your Mood, and End Cravings, I highly recommend getting it and reading it before jumping in and using amino acids on your own so you are knowledgeable. And be sure to share it with the team you or your loved one is working with. Blog posts like this are intended to add value to the chapter on amino acids, which contains detailed information on doses and time of the day for dosing.

The book doesn’t include product names (per the publisher’s request) so this blog, The Antianxiety Food Solution Amino Acid and Pyroluria Supplements, lists the DPA and DLPA products that I use with my individual clients and those in my group programs.

For DPA I have used the Lidtke Endorphigen product for years and it’s a firm favorite with my clients (and I’ve used it myself).

I recently purchased  a bottle of Doctor’s Best D-Phenylalanine to test and it works just as well as the Lidtke product.

If you are a practitioner, join us in The Balancing Neurotransmitters: the Fundamentals program. It’s an opportunity to interact with me and other practitioners who are also using the amino acids.

Do you have any of the low endorphin and/or low catecholamine symptoms and have you seen benefit with DPA, DLPA and/or tyrosine?  If yes, please share what benefits.

Has this blog provided clarification on DPA vs DLPA, and will you be changing how you use these amino acids going forward?

If you’re a practitioner please share what you use with clients/patients.

Feel free to ask your questions here too.

Filed Under: Amino Acids, Emotional Eating, Pain, Women's health Tagged With: amino acids, anxiety, anxious, catecholamines, cfs, comfort eating, d-phenylalanine, Dark chocolate, dl-phenylalanine, DLPA, DPA, emotional support, endorphins, energy, Fibromyalgia, focus, heart-ache, hug, insomnia, motivation, neurotransmitters, pain, symptoms, tyrosine, weepiness, What is the difference between DPA and DLPA

Paroxysmal laryngospasm with low GABA physical-tension-type-anxiety: Is GABA powder rubbed on the inside of the cheek a solution?

March 4, 2022 By Trudy Scott 42 Comments

Paroxysmal laryngospasm and GABA

One type of reactive airway obstruction is paroxysmal laryngospasm, which is a rare laryngeal disease in adults. In this condition, the throat is completely closed due to some form of hypersensitivity or a protective laryngeal reflex causing a transient, complete inability to breathe. Paroxysmal laryngospasm onset in patients is often characterized by a sudden and complete inability to breathe, along with voice loss or hoarseness and stridor. Paroxysmal laryngospasm usually lasts from several seconds to several minutes and may be accompanied by obvious causes such as upper respiratory tract infection, emotional agitation or tension, and/or severe coughing.

I shared something similar on Facebook and the fact that this had just happened to me when drinking lemon water and starting to talk too quickly after my last sip. I choked on the lemon water and my vocal cords went into a spasm. I could not breathe and I had a violent coughing fit. It was a terrifying experience! A few dabs of GABA powder inside my cheek helped relax my vocal cords – which are muscles –  immediately. I could breathe right away.

I’ve been researching this condition for some time now because I figured out this same solution for a family member who has had this happen about 6 times in the last few years.

The response on Facebook was surprisingly high and I now wonder how common this condition is with those who experience low GABA physical-tension-type-anxiety and if oral GABA powder is a viable solution for more individuals.

The 2020 paper on paroxysmal laryngospasm

The above description comes from this 2020 paper – Paroxysmal Laryngospasm: A Rare Condition That Respiratory Physicians Must Distinguish from Other Diseases with a Chief Complaint of Dyspnea

Let’s review a few terms from the paper:

  • According to Merriam-Webster, a paroxysm is a fit or attack.
  • Laryngospasm “(luh-RING-go-spaz-um) is a transient and reversible spasm of the vocal cords that temporarily makes it difficult to speak or breathe”, according to Mayo Clinic
  • Mayo Clinic describes dyspnea as follows: “Shortness of breath – known medically as dyspnea – is often described as an intense tightening in the chest, air hunger, difficulty breathing, breathlessness or a feeling of suffocation.”
  • According to Medscape, stridor is “an abnormal high-pitched sound produced by turbulent airflow through a partially obstructed airway.”) It’s particularly distressing to hear.

So essentially the title of this paper could be translated to something like this: An attack of temporary spasms of the vocal cord that causes difficulty breathing (0ften with a distressing sound of suffocating).  I would go as far to say: A terrifying attack ….

One of the objectives of the paper is to create more awareness on “how to identify and address paroxysmal laryngospasm from the perspective of respiratory physicians.” The  authors share that otolaryngologists (head and neck surgeons) and anesthesiologists (it happens frequently when undergoing anesthesia) are experts in managing paroxysmal laryngospasm.

They also state it’s rare and generally happens when an individual has gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD), and share how antireflux therapy i.e. PPIs (proton pump inhibitors) are frequently an effective treatment. My input on this: if it is caused by GERD, address why the GERD is happening and avoid PPIs if possible since they contribute to nutritional deficiencies and osteoporosis.

Hysterical stridor in adult females who are anxious and/or depressed

There is no mention of GABA or addressing spasms in the vocal cords and other muscles in this paper. However, the authors do discuss hysterical stridor as being different from paroxysmal laryngospasm, stating “it has a strong demographic pattern of occurring in young adult females, lasting for minutes to hours, frequently requiring sedation or anxiolytics for treatment, and persisting for years.”

They also share this about hysterical stridor:

Psychological assessment usually reveals multiple sources of life stress, compulsive personality traits, depression, anxiety, maladjustment, or a history of psychosomatic comorbidity. Other psychotherapy interventions, such as antianxiety therapy, depression therapy, sedation therapy, speech therapy, and behavioral therapy, are usually effective.

(note: I’m not thrilled by the term hysterical stridor. The diagnosis of hysteria goes back to the 1880s.)

I’m proposing oral GABA powder be researched as another viable option to address the low GABA anxiety symptoms, the hysterical stridor and the paroxysmal laryngospasm.

Is paroxysmal laryngospasm/hysterical stridor really that rare?

I do wonder if these conditions are really that rare. When I shared my experience on Facebook I had a reasonably big response from people saying it’s happened to them a few times, with some saying it has been happening all their lives. Here are a few of the many examples:

  • Anita shared this: “I have experienced laryngospasm. The experience is a spasmodic tightening of the airway triggered by ‘swallowing wrong’ for me. I have never experienced laryngospasm aside from that. I do have low GABA symptoms of physical tension and have had intrusive thoughts in the past, stress eating, but have never used ‘wine to relax’ as I am a ‘teetotaler.’ The episodes I’ve experienced have always resolved on their own within a minute or so. Scary feeling – that is for sure! I plan to keep GABA powder on hand now just in case of a future episode.”
  • Megan shared this: “I have Laryngospasm. I have total throat closure. It feels like forever but I suppose it’s up to 50 seconds. I’ve had it since I was a child and my mum has it too. Food is probably my main trigger, crumbly or syrup type things, a bad cold or even just swallowing wrong. I had a look at the list and I have quite a lot of the low GABA symptoms. I have generalized anxiety, feeling worried/fearful, panic attacks (but they are under control with Zoloft), tense stiff muscles, feeling stressed and burnt out, intrusive and unwanted thoughts and acrophobia.”

One woman felt she had experienced paroxysmal laryngospasm and she had been told it was a panic attack. A few people mentioned a similar condition called vocal cord disorder (often exercised- induced). Many said they had received no diagnosis or help from their doctor.

Interestingly, there are not many papers on “paroxysmal laryngospasm” or “hysterical stridor” so the research and presumably awareness too, seems to be lacking.

Why did I consider GABA for paroxysmal laryngospasm?

You may wonder why I considered GABA when this happened to me. I’ve personally used GABA with success over the years for spasms in my back muscles, rectal muscle spasms/proctalgia fugax, and vagus nerve and coughing/throat spasm episodes. With the additional knowledge I’ve now gained I suspect the latter was a form of laryngospasm.

I’ve also shared how GABA helps ease globus pharyngeus (a lump-in-the-throat sensation that is associated with anxiety and something I experienced in my late 30s).

I’m prone to low GABA physical-tension-type anxiety and have always done really well with oral sublingual GABA.

And of course, when you look at the low GABA symptoms all this makes perfect sense. GABA  helps with muscle spasms and provides pain relief when muscles are tight. The vocal cords are muscles and the larynx itself contains many muscles.

In case you’re new to GABA, it is a calming amino acid, used as a supplement, to ease low GABA levels. With low GABA you’ll experience physical-tension and stiff-and-tense-muscles type of anxiety, panic attacks and insomnia. You may feel the need to self-medicate to calm down, often with alcohol but sometimes with carbs and sugary foods.

What GABA did I use and how did I use it?

I dumped some GABA powder on the palm of my hand (with the help of a family member who rushed to my aid). I wet my finger with saliva, dabbed it in the GABA powder and rubbed it on the inside of my cheek. I did this a few times.

I don’t know exactly how much I used in total but estimate it to be around 200 mg GABA. I stopped rubbing it on the inside of my cheek as soon as I felt the muscles relaxing and I was able to breathe easily again. It felt like forever but it probably only lasted 30-60 seconds. I’d assume a more intense paroxysmal laryngospasm may require more GABA.

It was really encouraging how quickly GABA relaxed the muscles and stopped the laryngospasm. It’s also taken away the fear about it happening again.

Resources if you are new to using GABA as a supplement

If you are new to using the the amino acid GABA as a supplement, here is the Amino Acids Mood Questionnaire from The Antianxiety Food Solution (you can see the low GABA and other low neurotransmitter symptoms)

If you suspect low levels of GABA or low serotonin and do not yet have my book, The Antianxiety Food Solution – How the Foods You Eat Can Help You Calm Your Anxious Mind, Improve Your Mood, and End Cravings, I highly recommend getting it and reading it before jumping in and using amino acids on your own so you are knowledgeable. And be sure to share it with the team you or your loved one is working with.

The book doesn’t include product names (per the publisher’s request) so this blog, The Antianxiety Food Solution Amino Acid and Pyroluria Supplements, lists the GABA products that I use with my individual clients and those in my group programs.

If you don’t feel comfortable reading my book, doing the low GABA symptoms questionnaire and doing trials of GABA on your own, you can get guidance from me in the GABA Quickstart Program.

If you are a practitioner, join us in The Balancing Neurotransmitters: the Fundamentals program. It’s an opportunity to interact with me and other practitioners who are also using the amino acids.

Have you experienced paroxysmal laryngospasm? And do you have the low GABA physical-tension-type-anxiety symptoms?  What else is a trigger for you?

If you’ve already been using GABA with success, have you noticed a reduction in the paroxysmal laryngospasm episodes?

Have you ever used GABA in the way I did to stop an episode quickly?

Have you received a diagnosis and if yes, what diagnosis?

If you’re a practitioner please share what you have seen?

Feel free to ask your questions here too.

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How much GABA should I use for my anxiety? It depends on your unique needs (and there is an extremely large variation in dosing)

February 25, 2022 By Trudy Scott 54 Comments

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GABA is a calming amino acid, used as a supplement, to ease low GABA levels. With low GABA you’ll experience physical-tension and stiff-and-tense-muscles type of anxiety, panic attacks and insomnia. You may feel the need to self-medicate to calm down, often with alcohol but sometimes with carbs and sugary foods. GABA also helps with muscle spasms and provides pain relief when muscles are tight.

One of the most common questions I get from individuals who are excited to hear about the benefits of GABA but are totally new to using this amino acid is: “How much GABA should I use for my anxiety?” Even individuals who may be familiar with GABA and have even experimented with it themselves and are seeing some benefits may also have this question.

Most are not aware of the extremely large variations in dosing that may work for different individuals. Today I’ll share some examples to illustrate both the wonderful benefits and this range of dosing which can be as much as a 1000x to 2000x variation in some instances!

Syd gets sleep and body anxiety benefits with just 1.5 mg to 3 mg GABA

As you can see in this first example, Syd gets sleep and body anxiety benefits with just 1.5 mg to 3 mg GABA. She shared this on a recent blog post where I discussed how using too much GABA can cause a niacin-like flushing sensation

I think it’s useful to note that some, like me, start out with tiny doses and still get benefits with no side effects. I take around 1.5 mg to 3 mg GABA at a time and it works for me! Really helps me sleep at night.

I also take approximately 1.5mg if I feel body anxiety. I divide a melt-able 25mg tablet into 8ths or less. (Very approximate, of course. Sometimes it’s just crumbs!)

Right now, anything higher and I’m a wet noodle the next day, meaning I feel super depleted and can hardly stand up. But, no niacin flush-like symptoms.

I appreciate her sharing and I’m so glad she found her ideal dose. As you can see it’s really really low. We call folks like Syd “pixie dust” people because they do really well with tiny tiny doses. It also shows that some folks get flushed with too much GABA and some don’t. Syd just feels depleted.

In case you’re wondering which product Syd is using, it’s the Kal 25 mg GABA, which she breaks apart.

To give this perspective, a typical starting dose is 125mg GABA for adults and half that for children. I share more below on this and how to use the symptoms questionnaires and do a trial.

Christina’s agoraphobic client was able to leave the house with 3000 mg GABA

A colleague, Christina Veselak, MS, LMFT, CN shared this feedback about her client who had agoraphobia i.e. fear of outdoor spaces:

I once had a profoundly anxious, agoraphobic client who I sent home with instructions to trial GABA until she either got relief from her anxiety or an adverse reaction. She came back a few days later to say that she had arrived at 3000 mg of GABA in the morning as her ideal dose.

That dose allowed her not only to leave her bedroom but also leave her house, socialize and babysit her hyperactive grandsons!

Most of my other clients could not tolerate anything near to that dose without getting an adverse reaction but it was perfect for her.

This really adds perspective to the range of doses that folks may respond to. This dosage is 1000x higher than Syd’s maximum dose and 2000x higher than her lowest dose!

Let’s address this question: How much GABA should I use for my anxiety?

The answer is this – it depends on your unique needs and biochemistry. I know it’s not the answer you (and almost everyone else too) probably want to hear but there really is no one-size-fits-all when it comes to GABA and the other amino acids.

The best way to determine if you may have low GABA and may benefit from using GABA is to look at the low GABA symptoms, rate them on a scale of 1-10, with 10 being worst, do a trial of GABA and rate the symptoms again right afterwards (in the next 2 to 30 minutes).

Here are the symptoms.

From there you continue to adjust up (or down) over the next few weeks to find your ideal dose. If you go too high you may experience an uncomfortable tingling niacin-like flush.

I can share this: for GABA, 125mg is a typical starting dose for adults that I use with my clients. Half that or less is a good ballpark for starting a trial for children. As with all the amino acids, they are always best used sublingually and taken away from protein.

Below is an example from someone who figured out 1-3 of the 125 mg GABA Calm product was ideal for her own needs.

Melissa is much calmer, sleeps well and stopped craving sweets with 125 mg to 375 mg GABA Calm a day

Melissa started using Source Naturals GABA Calm in anticipation of holiday travel and holiday gatherings and shared how much she benefited:

I have been taking 1-3 per day for two weeks. I’m glad I bought it before traveling home for Christmas – I was cool as a cucumber at the airport and was much calmer when visiting family and friends compared to last year!

The true test of its efficacy will be in two weeks when the semester starts. For now, I notice a general calmness and am sleeping well.

An unexpected result was that I stopped craving sweets after about a week of taking it!

And how wonderful for her! And we have much appreciation for her sharing her success.

These results at this dosage are pretty typical for the majority of my clients. Of course there may need to be adjustments seasonally (possibly needing less after the holidays and closer to spring) or more around her period or more with added stresses in her life.

You can read more about the GABA Calm product she used here (you can find it in my online supplement store too).  

Resources if you are new to using GABA as a supplement

If you are new to using the the amino acid GABA as a supplement, here is the Amino Acids Mood Questionnaire from The Antianxiety Food Solution (you can see the low GABA and other low neurotransmitter symptoms)

If you suspect low levels of GABA or low serotonin and do not yet have my book, The Antianxiety Food Solution – How the Foods You Eat Can Help You Calm Your Anxious Mind, Improve Your Mood, and End Cravings, I highly recommend getting it and reading it before jumping in and using amino acids on your own so you are knowledgeable. And be sure to share it with the team you or your loved one is working with.

The book doesn’t include product names (per the publisher’s request) so this blog, The Antianxiety Food Solution Amino Acid and Pyroluria Supplements, lists the GABA products that I use with my individual clients and those in my group programs.

If you don’t feel comfortable reading my book, doing the low GABA symptoms questionnaire and doing trials of GABA on your own, you can get guidance from me in the GABA Quickstart Program.

If you are a practitioner, join us in The Balancing Neurotransmitters: the Fundamentals program. AS you’ve learned today, there are many nuances and best practices when using the amino acids. And it’s an opportunity to interact with me and other practitioners who are also using the amino acids.

What have you found to be your ideal dose of GABA? And how has it helped you?

What dose did you start with and did you go too high and then have to back down again to get to your ideal dose? (be sure to share which product worked for you too)

Are you surprised to learn about this huge variation in dosing GABA?  And if yes do you feel  inspired to experiment with your current dosing?

If you’re a practitioner have you seen these variations?

Feel free to ask your questions here too.

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Too much GABA causes a tingling niacin-like flush sensation (in the brain and body). It’s awful and very uncomfortable!

February 18, 2022 By Trudy Scott 104 Comments

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GABA, used as an amino acid, helps to raise GABA levels and ease physical tension-type anxiety. There are many misunderstandings on the best and most effective ways to use GABA and this can lead to unpleasant symptoms. One common thing I see is that too much GABA causes the brain and body to react with a tingling niacin-like flush sensation that is very uncomfortable and often described as awful.

Too many people stop using GABA for this reason. And then they lose out on the wonderful calming benefits of this amino acid. Some folks actually push through and continue with the unpleasant tingling sensation because they don’t know better and because they are also getting some of the calming benefits of GABA (I share an example of this below). Neither situation is ideal.

I recently received a GABA question on the blog on this very topic. It was from a licensed acupuncturist in California, USA (let’s call her Dr. M):

When I used to take GABA for my stress, my body/brain reacted with a tingling sensation.

It was so awkward and uncomfortable.

I thought it was only me, but when I prescribed GABA to my patients, they also felt the same sensations.

Can you tell me why this reaction occurred?

Thank you so much for your generosity and deep research.

Because this is such a common question that I get, I’m sharing it and my responses to use it as a teaching opportunity.

Too much GABA can cause this uncomfortable tingling niacin-like flush or sensation

I responded sharing that it can happen when too much GABA is used or if GABA is not needed. I typically hear of this happening when 500mg to 750mg is used to start. It’s also often described as a niacin-like flush. With GABA, 125mg is a typical starting dose and it’s always used as a sublingual or capsule opened onto the tongue. We slowly go up from there based on symptoms and the final dose is unique to each person’s needs. You may end up using 500mg or more but it’s a slow approach to get there.

I asked Dr. M to share which product/s she used, the dosing and let me know if she does better with a lower dose.

As expected she was using too high a dose (and hadn’t done a trial of a lower dose). She responded with this feedback:

The GABA I used for me and my patients is from Pure Encapsulations. This GABA contains 700 mg per capsule, which may be too much for the start.

Which brand would you recommend for practitioner use?

I responded by confirming that 700 mg GABA is way too much to start for most people.

What product and how much to use instead of 700 mg GABA

I like the Pure Encapsulations product but I actually feel the companies are partially at fault for having such high dose products, stating “1 capsule daily, between meals, or as directed by a health professional” on the label, and not educating practitioners and consumers about this issue.

With a product like this I have clients open up the capsule and start with 125 mg GABA powder on the tongue and increase from there as needed.

I also shared the other GABA products I use in case she would prefer to try something like the Source Naturals GABA Calm product I frequently use with clients.

This is a lozenge that contains 125 mg GABA, 5 mg magnesium, 50 mg glycine, 25 mg tyrosine and 20 mg taurine. This is my most popular and most effective form of GABA I use with my clients. [Note: this product is a lozenge with 125mg GABA and is not to be confused with the Source Naturals, GABA Calm Mind, 750 mg tablets]

I’m waiting for feedback from her to hear how using less of the 700 mg GABA (opened up and divided out) or how using another GABA product works for her and her patients.

I do appreciate Dr. M for asking a tough question like this and being open to me sharing so everyone gets to learn.

Where did Dr. M learn about GABA and some resources for additional practitioner education

I did ask Dr. M where she learned about using GABA and if the recommendation was to use a high dose like this. I’m genuinely curious to know so I can help guide further education in the use of GABA.

Of course, I encouraged her to get my book “The Antianxiety Food Solution” and read the chapter on the amino acids. And to consider signing up for the amino acid training for practitioners. There are many nuances and best practices when using the amino acids. And it’s an opportunity to interact with me and other practitioners who are also using the amino acids.

If you’re a practitioner, I’m hoping this question, my feedback and these resources are helpful for you.

Similar niacin-like flush experienced by Holly

As mentioned above this is a very common issue because most GABA products are 500mg and up and folks hear how amazing GABA is for physical anxiety and use a high dose without understanding they need to start low and use only what they need.

I shared my discussion with Dr. M in a Facebook post and Holly responded with what happened to her when she switched from GABA Calm (which has 125 mg GABA) to a 750 mg GABA product:

I experienced the niacin-like flush when I tried to go from GABA Calm [mostly dissolved in my mouth] to a pill form and didn’t realize the dosage would be way too high all at one time. The pill was 750 mg GABA [and swallowed with food], so it wasn’t going to work well anyway.

The flush lasted about 15-20 minutes. It was awful. I was sure I was going to throw up every time.

It took me a couple of weeks to figure out the cause.  My therapist recommended your website and book and those helped me understand when to take it and why it would help.

When I eliminated the 750 mg GABA  pill the symptoms completely went away.

Now I stick to GABA Calm. I take one in the morning and one before bed and sometimes one midday.

I appreciate Holly for sharing and I’m glad her and her therapist figured it out.

Resources if you are new to using GABA as a supplement

If you are new to using the the amino acids GABA as supplements, here is the Amino Acids Mood Questionnaire from The Antianxiety Food Solution (you can see the low GABA and other low neurotransmitter symptoms)

In case you’re new to the low GABA-type of anxiety, with low GABA levels you may experience physical-tension and stiff-and-tense-muscles, panic attacks, more physical tension in certain settings like public speaking or driving. You will often have the need to self-medicate to calm down, often with alcohol but sometimes with carbs and sugary foods.

Insomnia can also be caused by low GABA and you’ll experience physical tension in bed at night rather than the ruminating thoughts which is the low serotonin type of insomnia (although it’s not uncommon to experience both.) GABA also helps with muscle spasms and pain relief when muscles are tight.

If you suspect low levels of GABA or low serotonin and do not yet have my book, The Antianxiety Food Solution – How the Foods You Eat Can Help You Calm Your Anxious Mind, Improve Your Mood, and End Cravings, I highly recommend getting it and reading it before jumping in and using amino acids on your own so you are knowledgeable. And be sure to share it with the team you or your loved one is working with.

The book doesn’t include product names (per the publisher’s request) so this blog, The Antianxiety Food Solution Amino Acid and Pyroluria Supplements, lists the GABA products that I use with my individual clients and those in my group programs.

Get guidance in the GABA QuickStart Program

If you don’t feel comfortable reading my book, doing the low GABA symptoms questionnaire and doing trials of GABA on your own, you can get guidance from me in the GABA Quickstart Program.

We have an active and engaged community in the private Facebook group and there are 2 live Q & A calls with me.

One of the recent participants shared this lightbulb moment after starting with GABA Calm in the day and then shifting to 250 mg GABA at night only:

Listening to the GABA Quickstart made me realize something about the Source Naturals GABA Calm with the bit of tyrosine. I bought the NOW GABA powder and last night took 250mg (1/8 tsp and I have tiny measuring spoons) and woke up great.

I think I found my dose of GABA and I don’t think after my trial I’m a GABA in the day girl.

Have you used a high dose of GABA to start (or switched to a higher dose like Holly did) and experienced this unpleasant niacin-like flush?

How much caused this tingling sensation for you and how unpleasant was it? Did you push through and continue using the high dose? Or did you figure it out and use less? How long did it take you to figure it out?

Maybe you quit using GABA because of something like this – do you now feel inspired to try again?

If you’ve had success with using GABA please do share too.

If you’re a practitioner where did you learn about using GABA and was the recommendation was to use a high dose like 500 mg or 750 mg to start?

Feel free to ask your questions here too.

Be sure to share which product you used, how much you used and if you have low GABA symptoms.

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