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Why social anxiety, introversion and loneliness can be lethal and a simple nutritional solution

January 10, 2020 By Trudy Scott 40 Comments

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It was an honor to be selected as one of fifteen participants for The Future of Health presentations at Mindshare in August 2019. I presented this to my peers in the integrative health and nutrition space but it’s applicable to everyone and I’d like to share it with you today.

Here is my video presentation: Why social anxiety, introversion and loneliness can be lethal and a simple nutritional solution  (click below to watch the video)

Here are some additional reading resources on much of what I cover in my 5 minute presentation:

  • Pyroluria is a social anxiety condition that is not well recognized in the medical community. It responds really well to a few key nutrients, with zinc and vitamin B6 forming the foundation. I cover this in this blog post: Pyroluria, high mauve, pyrrole disorder, malvaria, elevated kryptopyrroles and social anxiety.
  • Here is a link to the Pyroluria Questionnaire from my book The Antianxiety Food Solution (which has an entire chapter on the topic). I created this questionnaire using the work of Carl Pfeiffer and Joan Mathews-Larson, modifying it based on feedback I receive from my clients.
  • I discuss how I first discovered the pyroluria-introversion connection here – Am I an anxious introvert because of low zinc and vitamin B6? My response to Huffington Post blog. I wrote this in response to the Huffington Post article, “23 Signs You’re Secretly An Introvert”, by Carolyn Gregoire.
  • Here is the webmd loneliness article with this quote: “Loneliness has the same impact on mortality as smoking 15 cigarettes a day, making it even more dangerous than obesity” ~ Douglas Nemecek, MD, chief medical officer for behavioral health, Cigna
  • And this loneliness paper, Loneliness and Social Isolation as Risk Factors for Mortality: A Meta-Analytic Review
  • In this blog I write about how Increased sociability improves vagus nerve function: the role of social anxiety, pyroluria and low zinc

This is the the amazing and inspiring group of speakers who I shared the stage with:

  • Amie Apigan – Why Attachment is the New Field of Medicine
  • Lauryn Lax – Eating Healthy is Killing You
  • Jess Sherman – Raising Resilient Kids in a Complex World: Will we Rise to the Challenge
  • Terry Wahls – Creating an Epidemic of Health – My Radical Path
  • Susanne Bennett – The Kimchi Revolution: How an Ancient Food Can Transform the Future of Health
  • Razi Berry – Love is Medicine
  • Kaylea Boutwell – I’ve Got Your Back: Novel Pain Therapies Transforming Spinal Care Outcomes
  • Dana Cohen – Hydration: 8 Glasses a Day is not the Way!
  • Elisa Song – Breathing Life into Your Kids
  • Joel Sprechman – Creating 1M Super Poopers & Evolving Crohn’s Colitis
  • Katy Kimball – My Plan to Empty Your Waiting Rooms (the Real Root Cause of Poor Health)
  • Heather Paulson – Why Choose? Using the Best of Both Worlds to Experience Health with Cancer
  • James Maskell – Group Visits: How Functional Medicine Reaches the Vulnerable
  • Mehgan Walker – Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Chronic Disease: Why Chasing Happiness is Making us Sick

(do let me know if you’d like me to share any of these presentations in the follow-up blog)

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Mindshare 2019 green room
Here are some of us in the backstage “green room” and getting ready to go on stage!

We each had a maximum of 5 minutes to present and were not allowed slides or notes. The last time I had memorized my talks and had them timed was 15 years ago when I was in Toastmasters. Before that it was when I was in school. I wasn’t even sure if I could do it when I entered my proposal to speak. When practicing the day before I was still unsure I could manage. Because of my Lyme disease, my memory and word recall isn’t as great as it used to be.

If you pay close attention and you’ll notice the spot where I almost freeze – everything just went out of my head! I simply breathed in calmly, made an attempt to look like I had paused and was fortunate that most of the ending came back to me! Whew!

trudy scott mindshare 2019

 

I’d love to hear what you think of my message and if it resonates with you or a loved one. Feel free to share your pyroluria score and how you score on the introvert questionnaire.

Please also share if you’ve seen the benefits of no social anxiety, introversion and/or loneliness (or much less) when on the pyroluria protocol.

Filed Under: Anxiety, Introversion, Pyroluria Tagged With: anxiety, Future of Health, introversion, loneliness, mindshare, pyroluria, sociability, social anxiety, social isolation, vagus nerve, vitamin B6, zinc

Can Social Anxiety Be Reversed with Nutrition?

May 29, 2015 By Trudy Scott 62 Comments

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Sean Croxton host of Underground Wellness Radio shares how:

  • he was once prescribed Paxil for social anxiety (and depression)
  • he doesn’t like big crowds
  • he can speak on stage in front of 100s of people with no problem
  • as soon as people come to talk to him afterwards he wants to go!

Can you relate to any of this?

He thinks he has pyroluria, a social anxiety condition where you have a higher need for some key nutrients: zinc, vitamin B6 and evening primrose oil.

We are often surprised when we hear that someone who appears to be outgoing and extroverted (like Sean) actually has social anxiety.

It’s more common than you think and is made worse under stressful situations: life stresses, gluten sensitivities etc.

I share how my social anxiety got really bad in my late thirties (when my PMS was so bad) and how

  • many of us with pyroluria push through and deal with it
  • we just want to stay home
  • we don’t really want to see people

Not everyone needs omega-3 supplements!

We discuss omega-3s and omega-6s and how pyrolurics often don’t need to supplement with omega-3s like fish oils but can extract the omega-3s from the foods they eat: grass-fed red meat, wild fish like salmon, leafy greens and walnuts.

Pyrolurics often do need to supplement with the GLA form of omega-6 that we find in evening primrose oil as GLA is often low, plus the GLA enhances zinc absorption.

(by the way: I said alpha linolenic acid (ALA) but should have said gamma linolenic acid (GLA)

A good copper-free multi is part of the protocol because low zinc often means high copper and this can make you more anxious.

Looking at other sources of copper is a helpful for many pyrolurics: eating too many nuts, baking with nut flours, the copper IUD.

You don’t want to miss this part…Sean asks if you can cure introversion with this pyroluria protocol. If you are an introvert and force yourself in social settings, feel very uncomfortable and anxious being around big groups of people then you’re going to have to watch the end of the video for my answer!

You can watch the whole snippet here

This is part of my interview on the Depression Sessions, an online event hosted by my friend Sean. I’ll also be sharing information about the amazing amino acids – inexpensive, over-the-counter supplements that can lift your mood and end anxiety in minutes!

Sean traveled the country to interview the best of the best experts — medical doctors, naturopaths, nutritionists, and bestselling authors — on what really causes depression and anxiety and what to do about it.

Some of us (like me) flew to San Diego to be interviewed in his home. It was such a thrill to be interviewed by the legendary Sean Croxton and is an honor to be part of this group of experts!

Here are just a few of the amazing experts you’ll hear from:

  • Suzy Cohen, also known as America’s Pharmacist, uncovers specific prescription drugs that rob your body and brain of mood-friendly nutrients.
  • Datis Kharrazian will show you what insomnia, anxiety, and the symptoms that tag along with depression can tell you about what’s causing it.
  • Hyla Cass, a medical doctor and integrative psychiatrist (who has been featured on two prior Anxiety Summits), shares her best tips for transitioning OFF of psychiatric meds while avoiding or minimizing common withdrawal symptoms.
  • Ben Lynch (another Anxiety Summit favorite) reveals the incredibly common genetic mutation known to drive depression (and anxiety) … and the critical nutrients that make such a big difference.

 

Filed Under: Anxiety and panic, Events, Introversion, Pyroluria Tagged With: introversion, pyroluria, sean croxton, social anxiety, the depression sessions, Trudy Scott, underground wellness radio, zinc

Pyroluria/social anxiety protocol: why aren’t I getting results? (trouble-shooting checklist)

May 16, 2015 By Trudy Scott 118 Comments

pyroluria social anxiety protocol

How do you trouble-shoot when you score high on the Pyroluria Questionnaire from The Antianxiety Food Solution  or even have a positive pyroluria urine test but you don’t seem to be getting the results you expect?

You still have social anxiety, that inner tension that you push through and deal with, and likely still feel uncomfortable when in large groups. You force yourself to put on the confident brave face. You may wish you could be more like your extrovert friends and actual enjoy socializing and speaking in public/on stage – without the fear and anxiety. You may still not be a big breakfast eater and have morning nausea. You may not yet be having pleasant dreams that you always remember.

(If pyroluria is new to you here is the Pyroluria Questionnaire from The Antianxiety Food Solution and here is a nice summary – Pyroluria, social anxiety, introversion: a summary )

This checklist is a starting point to try and figure out what may be the issue. These are the questions I work through with someone who is working with me one-on-one.

I discussed 21 of these in my interview on season 3 of the Anxiety Summit: Pyroluria, Amino Acids and Anxiety: Troubleshooting when you are not getting results

As you heard during the interview, I added MTHFR and I’ve even added a few more since then. I expect this list to continue to grow.

  1. What form of zinc are you taking and is it free from copper? My favorite is Optizinc (zinc monomethionine) as it’s typically well-absorbed
  2. Have you made sure that there is no copper in your multivitamin or other supplements? (this completes with zinc)
  3. Have you been taking evening primrose oil and if yes, how much? (this enhances zinc absorption)
  4. Did you test your fatty acid levels? What are the results? Did it show a need for GLA (I like evening primrose oil rather than borage oil) and no need for omega-3s (pyrolurics typically don’t need to supplement with omega-3s like fish oil)
  5. What is your alkaline phosphatase (a blood test)? Less than 70 may indicate a need for zinc
  6. Have you done the zinc tally/challenge with zinc sulfate and does it taste like water or does it taste really bad? If you zinc levels are good it should taste really bad
  7. Did you test copper and ceruloplasmin, and if yes, what were the results?
  8. Did you do the pyroluria urine test? What are the results?
  9. What’s your score on the pyroluria questionnaire ? And which symptoms do you have?
  10. What is your score on the introversion questionnaire?
  11. What were your dreams like before starting the protocol and now? How high did you go on the vitamin B6? Did you switch to P5P and/or use a combination of both if needed?
  12. On a scale of 1-10, what was your social anxiety before and now (10 is worst)
  13. What is your stomach acid like? And have you trialed HCl supplements? Tested total protein (in blood)
  14. Do you eat grass-fed red meat (a good source of zinc, iron and omega-3s)?
  15. Do you eat sugar? Refined sugar and processed foods? Or even “healthy” sweeteners such as honey in large quantities? (sugar depletes zinc)
  16. Do you eat large quantities of nuts or bake with nut flours? (the copper in the nuts may be affecting your zinc levels)
  17. Do you have a copper IUD, copper pipes, copper pots? (this may also affect your zinc levels, keeping them low)
  18. Have you done a hair analysis and found high copper or high hidden copper? (this may also affect your zinc levels, keeping them low)
  19. How much and how often do you exercise? What about bikram/hot yoga? (sweating depletes us of zinc)
  20. Have you used any of the amino acids? And seen good results? (this could be a clue that zinc and vitamin B6 are low since they are cofactors for making neurotransmitters such as serotonin, GABA, dopamine)
  21. Do you eat gluten and have a gluten sensitivity? If yes, have you healed your gut? If not, you may have malabsorption issues
  22. Are you completely grain-free? (this may be impacting your vitamin B6 levels)
  23. Do you have amalgams/silver fillings? Did you have them removed and did a mercury detox? Were you tested for heavy metals? (zinc absorption can be blocked by heavy metals – we talked about this in season 2)
  24. Do you have the MTHFR polymorphism? It’s common with pyroluria and this may mean you need higher amounts of the supplements
  25. Do you have high histamine/hisadelia or low histamine/histapenia? Pyrolurics often have one or the other
  26. Are you taking benzodiazapines or have recently quit benzodiazapines? Your unresolved anxiety may be due to this fact (we talked about this in season 1)
  27. Do you have parasites, candida, dysbiosis, SIBO or other digestive issues? These can be considered stresses and pyroluria symptoms are worse under stress. Digestive issues also impact absorption
  28. Do you have Lyme disease or another infection? These can be considered stresses and pyroluria symptoms are worse under stress. The immune system also uses up zinc.
  29. Do you have food sensitivities?  This may contribute to malabsorption.  This can also be considered a stress and pyroluria symptoms are worse under stress
  30. Do you have problems with histamine-containing foods? This can be considered a stress and pyroluria symptoms are worse under stress.  Also, vitamin B6 is a co-factor needed for the DAO enzyme, which is responsible for the degradation of histamine.
  31. Do you have issues with oxalates? This can be considered a stress and pyroluria symptoms are worse under stress. Oxalates can also bind to minerals and lower the levels. For some folks vitamin B6 helps with oxalate issues so the need may be higher.
  32. Have you been/are you exposed to mold and other toxins? These can be considered stresses and pyroluria symptoms are worse under stress. The immune system also uses up zinc.
  33. Do you have low oxytocin levels?  Do you have a genetic variation in the oxytocin receptor gene (OXTR). Oxytocin has been implicated in anxiety, depression and related stress phenotypes
  34. Is your life super-stressful or have you suffered from a recent trauma (or have old unresolved trauma)? Stress and trauma makes pyroluria worse
  35. Do you have adrenal issues? We need good adrenal function for optimal digestion, being able to handle stress and being able to fight off infections/avoid getting parasites and dysbiosis
  36. Do you have hormonal issues – PMS, perimenopausal or menopausal symptoms?  The pyroluria protocol helps and this could be a clue that something is off
  37. Are you on the birth control pill or have used one in the past? Oral contraceptives cause low vitamin B6 and zinc, reduce serotonin levels and increase anxiety.
  38. Are you on any other prescription medications? Many medications deplete B vitamins and zinc.
  39. Do you have vagus nerve issues? Good vagus nerve function is key for digestion, immunity, inflammation, neurotransmitter production and so much more. Also, forcing yourself to socialize when you have pyroluria is stressful and impacts the vagus nerve
  40. Do you have inflammation and/or immunity issues? Vitamin B6 plays a role in reducing inflammation and immune modulation
[August 2021: the above list was updated extensively]

 

This list is NOT exhaustive and it’s NOT in my book The Antianxiety Food Solution because I gathered this information after the book was published. However, the pyroluria questionnaire, detailed protocol and testing information is in the book. There is an entire chapter on pyroluria.

Keep in mind that most folks do the pyroluria questionnaire, start on the recommended protocol of zinc, vitamin B6 and a copper-free multi and start to see improvements in a week. These can be dramatic improvements for many folks. And many folks see decent improvements in a few weeks and tweak things over the next few weeks before landing on the ideal doses.

This blog is for you if this doesn’t happen.

Did you miss this interview or want this and the other great interviews for your learning library? You can purchase the MP3s or MP3s + transcripts and listen/read when it suits you. You can find your purchasing options here: Anxiety Summit Season 1, Anxiety Summit Season 2, and Anxiety Summit Season 3.

Feel free to share your results in the blog comments and what you figured may be the issue/s for you.

If you tweak something and it helped do let us know too. That way we all help each other.

And feel free to ask questions in the comments too.

Filed Under: Antianxiety, Antianxiety Food Solution, Introversion, MTHFR, Pyroluria, Stress, The Anxiety Summit 3 Tagged With: anxiety, introversion, pyroluria, social anxiety, the anxiety summit, Trudy Scott, vitamin B6, zinc

The Anxiety Summit – Pyroluria, Amino Acids and Anxiety: Troubleshooting when you are not getting results

May 16, 2015 By Trudy Scott 101 Comments

 

Trudy Scott, Food Mood Expert and Nutritionist, author of The Antianxiety Food Solution. presents during the Anxiety Summit Season 3.

Pyroluria, Amino Acids and Anxiety: Troubleshooting when you are not getting results

  • Pyroluria and the effects of leaky gut, oxalates and low oxytocin levels
  • CFS, ADHD, autism, alcoholism, Lyme disease: the pyroluria connection
  • Introversion and musician’s dystonia: an update on the pyroluria connection
  • Troubleshooting the pyroluria protocol and mistakes I see
  • Testing for pyroluria, zinc, vitamin B6 and fatty acids
  • The 8 factors that make the targeted individual amino acids more effective
  • What to do when the amino acids are not working
  • Concerns about quinolinic acid and tryptophan?

Pyroluria/social anxiety/introversion protocol: trouble-shooting

This is the blog I mentioned that summarizes a number of prior blog posts on the topic: Pyroluria, social anxiety, introversion: a summary

We discussed factors to consider when you are not getting results on the pyroluria protocol. Here is the blog with the 21 we talked about during the interview plus additional factors that I’ve added.

Pyroluria protocol: why aren’t I getting results – trouble-shooting checklist

Here are the oxytocin blogs that discuss social anxiety, testing, the oxytocin receptor gene and connections to autism and depression:

Oxytocin, social anxiety, pyroluria and autism

Dr. Woeller shares how helpful oxytocin is for social anxiety, facial recognition and voice recognition in individuals with autism and Asperger’s syndrome

Oxytocin and social anxiety, pyroluria and depression?

Genetic variation in the oxytocin receptor gene (OXTR) has been implicated in anxiety, depression and related stress phenotypes

I mentioned my aminos and pyroluria interview with Sean Croxton on the upcoming Depression Sessions (an online video series) in June. He is an introvert and is fascinated with pyroluria-introversion connection. I said I’d share a link to the Depression Sessions but the site isn’t quite ready so please stay tuned. I’ll share it in a few days. This one is not to be missed.

 

Targeted individual amino acid supplements for anxiety: trouble-shooting

This is the blog I mentioned that summarizes a number of prior blog posts on the topic: Anxiety and targeted individual amino acid supplements: a summary

Here are the categories I discussed, together with the associated amino acid/s

  • low blood sugar: glutamine
  • low GABA: GABA (I prefer GABA to Phenibut or pharmaGABA)
  • low serotonin: tryptophan or 5-HTP
  • low endorphins: DPA (d-phenylalanine)
  • low catecholamines: tyrosine

Here is the Amino Acids Mood Questionnaire from The Antianxiety Food Solution. I encourage you to do and see which sections may be an issue for you (or see how much you’ve improved if you’ve been using amino acids)

I discussed why Urinary neurotransmitter testing falls short and why I use the above questionnaire instead

There are some precautions to be aware of when taking supplemental amino acids. Here are the Amino Acid Precautions

The 8 factors that make the amino acids more effective:

  1. addressing blood sugar issues and eating real whole food
  2. the brand and quality
  3. timing i.e. between meals and away from protein
  4. your unique amount for your own need
  5. addressing bipolar or bipolar-type symptoms
  6. using the pyroluria protocol at the same time (if needed)
  7. addressing thyroid health and hormonal health
  8. taking the amino acids opened up

Thanks to Dr. Josh Friedman, Integrative Psychotherapist, for the interview. As I mentioned, I interviewed him on season 1 of the Anxiety summit on: “Integrative Psychotherapy: My Journey from Psychoanalysis to Whole Person Mental Health.” If you missed it, I highly recommend it. Dr. Friedman is dear friend, colleague and integrative psychotherapist who uses amino acids and other nutritional approaches in his practice. During our season 1 interview I asked him if he uses GABA with his patients and I love his answer:

it is definitely something I use. I am not a biochemist, so I actually don’t really know whether it crosses the blood/brain barrier, nor do I care actually. the first question should be, is it harmful? Are any of these things going to cause harm? And the answer with all the amino acids are no, they’re not going to cause harm, especially when compared to psychiatric medicines. The second question is, does it work? Is it helpful for our patients that we see in our practice?

Here is a link to my book: The Antianxiety Food Solution: How the Foods You Eat Can Help You Calm Your Anxious Mind, Improve Your Mood, and End Cravings

As we mentioned, it has the amino acid questionnaire, pyroluria questionnaire and all the protocols BUT does not contain the 21+ pyroluria touble-shooting checklist (see the separate blog post for this)

trudy scott the antianxiety food solution

If you are not already registered for the Anxiety Summit you can get live access to the speakers of the day here: www.theAnxietySummit.com

Missed this interview or can’t listen live? Or want this and the other great interviews for your learning library? Purchase the MP3s or MP3s + transcripts and listen when it suits you.

You can find your purchasing options here: Anxiety Summit Season 1, Anxiety Summit Season 2, and Anxiety Summit Season 3.

Filed Under: Amino Acids, Antianxiety, Introversion, Pyroluria, The Anxiety Summit 3 Tagged With: amino acids, anxiety, dystonia, introversion, pyroluria, social anxiety, the antianxiety food solution, the anxiety summit, Trudy Scott

Pyroluria and focal musician’s dystonia or musician’s cramp

February 6, 2015 By Trudy Scott 50 Comments

Pyroluria and focal musician’s dystonia

In May 2014 a gentleman named Jay asked this question on my Pyroluria Questionnaire blog: “have you come across a connection between pyroluria and focal musician’s dystonia (musician’s cramp)?

I responded saying “I have not and until I looked it up I was not aware of this condition. I’m curious why you’re asking? Do you or someone you know have symptoms of pyroluria and focal musician’s dystonia?”

I’m a very curious person and always turn to the research and like to look for connections. I started to dig and came across the The Dystonia Society, a UK based organization that provides support, advocacy and information for anyone affected by the neurological movement condition known as dystonia. They have this definition on the About Dystonia page:

Dystonia is a neurological movement disorder. Faulty signals from the brain cause muscles to spasm and pull on the body incorrectly. This forces the body into twisting, repetitive movements or abnormal postures.

The various types of dystonia are listed and they discuss managing symptoms and say:

Remission from symptoms does sometimes occur but is rare – occurring in around 5-10% of cases.

I posted some feedback, starting a dialogue (both in the comments and via email) that led to me learning a whole lot more about dystonia and the finding out there does seem to be a connection to pyroluria, a social anxiety condition that is not well-recognized in the medical or mental health community. Symptoms include inner tension and discomfort in big groups. Many introverts relate to the symptoms of pyroluria too.

In the process Jay saw wonderful results, we heard from Dave and his success. And we’re getting to share this information in the hope of helping others like him and Dave.

Much of the information is buried in comments on various blogs so I’ve decided it needs a separate blog post – with the connections and research I discovered and some of the inspiring feedback from Jay and Dave.

Dystonia and possible connections with pyroluria

This is most of what I originally posted (with a few slight revisions).

I do see some overlaps with dystonia and mood so it’s possible there is a connection between pyroluria and musician’s dystonia:

(1) The Dystonia Society is a wealth of information and has this on their mental health page: “it is now thought that people affected by dystonia are more likely to experience mental health conditions such as depression, anxiety and OCD even before the physical symptoms of dystonia appear. It is not known why this is – but it appears that whatever causes dystonia may also affect mood and behaviour in some way.”  Now I wonder how common social anxiety is for those with dystonia?

(2) “An additional relation between dystonia and mental health conditions is that some drugs used to treat psychoses can cause tardive dystonia / dyskinesia. With the new generation of these drugs (called dopamine receptor blockers) this is much less likely than it used to be – but unfortunately a small risk remains.” (this is also from the above dystonia page)

(3) The drug treatments they recommend are also often used for anxiety and depression. I’d suggest assessing for low GABA, low serotonin and low catecholamines first (using the amino acid questionnaire and determining if targeted individual amino acids may give the same relief. I would avoid benzodiazapines – Dr. Catherine Pittman shared the many side-effects and withdrawal effects during the Anxiety Summit.

(4) If you have pyroluria, you’ll also have low levels of zinc and vitamin B6, key co-factors in making serotonin and GABA and other neurotransmitters which affect anxiety and depression.

(5) Depression, anxiety, pyroluria and dystonia have a possible autoimmune/gluten/diet connection. This paper “Movement disorders in autoimmune diseases” discusses how “Tremors, dystonia, chorea, ballism, myoclonus, parkinsonism, and ataxia may be the initial and even the only presentation of these autoimmune diseases.” And here is a case study where the dystonia resolved on a gluten-free diet: “She had complete resolution of her neurological symptoms with introduction of a gluten-free diet.” We know gluten can damage the gut and lead to low levels of nutrients such as zinc and also cause low serotonin.

(6) Wilson’s disease (a serious condition of high copper/low zinc) can have symptoms of dystonia. This 2012 paper states: “The clinical manifestations of neurologic Wilson’s disease include variable combinations of dysarthria, dystonia, tremor, parkinsonism, ataxia, and choreoathetosis.”

I’m so pleased Jay asked this question. I learned a lot by looking in to this initially and since then have learned a great deal more.

Jay and Dave: their results implementing the pyroluria protocol

And take a look at the fabulous results Jay and Dave saw when they implemented only the pyroluria protocol (the starting dose I use with clients is 100mg vitamin B6 and 30mg zinc and 1300mg Evening Primrose Oil):

From Jay in June 2014

I started taking B6 (Pyridoxine Hydrochloride) 120mg and Zinc USP 60mg 2 weeks ago and do find some relief already. As you may have guessed, I have had dystonia for a long time and had to put a professional musician’s career on hold, and when I read your site, I found that I have a large number of symptoms from your list – I am hopeful.

From Jay in September 2014

I think it is, at this point, safe to say that the pyroluria treatment is, at least in my case, the cure for pyroluria and dystonia. 90%+ of my symptoms have disappeared, I am working extensively on repertoire and I am thinking about getting back into performing.

Dave in September 2014

just writing here to say that i too have battled focal dystonia over the past 8+ years.  actually started as writer’s cramp and then worked it’s way into my guitar playing.  about  3 years ago i noticed symptoms lessened based on different things i ate and shortly after came across pyroluria.  in all questionairs i answer yes to most if not all questions.  

anyway,  for the past 2 years i’ve been on zinc and b6 and have had vast improvements.  for me, the muscle disorders don’t go away without retraining, but the b6 and especially zinc make retraining much more successful.   however, sometimes i do hit the jackpot and my hands work almost normal without the efforts of retraining.  my dose fluctuates between 25-60 mg zinc and 50-100 mg b6 which i seem to have more trouble taking.  i also experimented with methyl b12 but that led to a very painful rash.

the funny thing about all of this is that i feel nowadays that focal dystonia was only the canary in the coal mine for other symptoms that paid little or no attention to because i was only focused on being a musician.  as a result of taking supplements most of those other symptoms are much better and i’m soooooo close now to having proper movement in my fingers.

it’s really great to see what you and jay have posted here because it really validates what i’ve been doing.  i too believe there are many that can be helped by this.

Jay in October 2014

I am so happy to read this dystonia related success story! After my own experience, I still say an experience akin to rebirth as a musician and also as a person, this was the reason for me to post on this blog – to help get this out to musicians who are victims of dystonia and inadequate medical treatment.

Low GABA levels in focal and cervical dystonia

Update: Dec 6, 2024

I’m adding this section on a GABA connection to dystonia because cervical dystonia came up as a question in the GABA Quickstart 2.0 program this week. The research finds that there seems to be a low GABA connection to many different types of dystonia.

This 2002 paper, Impaired brain GABA in focal dystonia, reports on patients with writer’s cramp, a task specific dystonia, revealing “that brain GABA levels are decreased in specific brain regions of the focal dystonia patients compared to normal controls” and concludes that the “reduction of brain GABA in dystonia patients may explain the clinical symptomatology of focal dystonia.”

Cervical dystonia, “also called spasmodic torticollis, is a painful condition in which your neck muscles contract involuntarily, causing your head to twist or turn to one side. Cervical dystonia can also cause your head to uncontrollably tilt forward or backward.”

The objective of this 2021 paper, Cervical Dystonia Is Associated With Aberrant Inhibitory Signaling Within the Thalamus, was “to investigate whether alterations in the neurotransmission of gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA) in the thalamus are present in patients with cervical dystonia compared to healthy controls.”

The authors report that “aberrant inhibitory signaling within the thalamus contributes to the pathophysiology of cervical dystonia. Additionally, these results suggest that an inadequate ability to compensate for the loss of GABA through upregulation of GABAA receptors may underlie more severe symptoms.”

Keep in mind that zinc and vitamin B6 are cofactor nutrients that are needed to make GABA. It’s common for someone with low GABA symptoms to also be on the pyroluria protocol.

I would be exploring low GABA in addition to low zinc and low vitamin B6 (and possibly pyroluria if someone has any type of dystonia.

Additional resources when you are new to using GABA and other amino acids as supplements

As always, I use the symptoms questionnaire to figure out if low GABA or other neurotransmitter imbalances may be an issue.

If you suspect low levels of any of the neurotransmitters and do not yet have my book, The Antianxiety Food Solution – How the Foods You Eat Can Help You Calm Your Anxious Mind, Improve Your Mood, and End Cravings, I highly recommend getting it and reading it before jumping in and using amino acids on your own so you are knowledgeable. And be sure to share it with the practitioner/health team you or your loved one is working with.

There is an entire chapter on the amino acids and they are discussed throughout the book in the sections on gut health, gluten, blood sugar control (this is covered in an entire chapter too), sugar cravings, anxiety and mood issues.

The book doesn’t include product names (per the publisher’s request) so this blog, The Antianxiety Food Solution Amino Acid and Pyroluria Supplements, lists the amino acids that I use with my individual clients and those in my group programs.

If, after reading this blog and my book, you don’t feel comfortable figuring things out on your own (i.e. doing the symptoms questionnaire and respective amino acids trials), a good place to get help is the GABA QuickStart Program (if you have low GABA symptoms). This is a paid online/virtual group program where you get my guidance and community support.

If you are a practitioner, join us in The Balancing Neurotransmitters: the Fundamentals program. This is also a paid online/virtual program with an opportunity to interact with me and other practitioners who are also using the amino acids.

Wrapping up and your feedback

I appreciate Jay and Dave for sharing their dystonia success stories. I am curious if using GABA too would have helped them see results more quickly.

We’re hoping we can generate some interest from various dystonia organizations/groups/forums and help more musicians find symptom resolution – certainly more than the 5-10% the Dystonia Society reports. The more people reporting success, the more likely approaches like this will be studied, accepted by the mainstream medical community and included on sites like the Dystonia Society.

If you relate to any of this please do comment and let us know what your results have been.

If you know someone with musician’s dystonia (or another form of dystonia) and pyroluria/social anxiety please do share this with them.

Filed Under: Introversion, Music, Pyroluria Tagged With: anxiety, depression, dystonia, gluten, introverts, musiciaian's dystonia, pyroluria, vitamin B6

The Anxiety Summit: How zinc and vitamin B6 prevent pyroluria and social anxiety

June 15, 2014 By Trudy Scott 217 Comments

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How zinc and vitamin B6 prevent pyroluria and social anxiety

– an interview with Trudy Scott, host of the Anxiety Summit (interviewer is Corey Schuler, who presents on Tuesday)

This interview was done on day 7 of The Anxiety Summit: Nutritional approaches for eliminating anxiety, social anxiety, panic attacks and OCD.

You can read/learn more about the summit in my opening talk/blog “Why the Anxiety Summit? Stats, trends and gems.”

Pyroluria/social anxiety

Low levels of the mineral zinc and vitamin B6 are frequently associated with a type of anxiety characterized by social anxiety, avoidance of crowds, a feeling of inner tension, and bouts of depression. People with this problem experience varying degrees of anxiety or fear, often starting in childhood, but they usually manage to cover it up. They tend to build their life around one person, become more of a loner over time, have difficulty handling stress or change, and have heightened anxiety symptoms when under more stress.

This constellation of symptoms is often the result of a genetic condition called pyroluria, also known as high mauve, pyrrole disorder, pyrroluria, pyrolleuria, malvaria, and elevated kryptopyrroles.

Here is the online version of the Pyroluria Questionnaire from The Antianixety Food Solution.

Be sure to read the comments for a wealth of information. You’ll see the dystonia question here.

If you need more information I have a whole chapter on pyroluria in my book:

The Antianxiety Food Solution: How the Foods You Eat Can Help You Calm Your Anxious Mind, Improve Your Mood and End Cravings (New Harbinger 2011).

  • The pyroluria chapter includes very detailed sections on the background, the questionnaire, testing and pyroluria supplement protocol.
  • It does not mention introversion, miscarriage and dystonia as these are new areas that I’m looking into

Here are other great books that also address pyroluria:

Joan Mathews Larson Depression Free Naturally

Carl Pfeiffer Nutrition and Mental Illness

Eva Edelman Natural Healing for Schizophrenia and Other Common Mental Disorders. As Corey said, this one is more for the practitioner.

 

The pyroluria-introversion connection

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This is the blog post I wrote in response to the Huffington Post article, written by Carolyn Gregoire and called “23 Signs You’re Secretly An Introvert”

“Am I an anxious introvert because of low zinc and vitamin B6? My response to Huffington Post blog”

Be sure to check out the 23 signs and the responses from my wonderful followers.

I’d like to invite you to do both questionnaires and comment on the blog. Tell us that yes you are an introvert and yes you score over 15 on the pyroluria question or whatever the outcome is.

 

Pyroluria and fear of public speaking

Sontine is a client of mine who made diet changes, lifestyle changes like walking and added the key nutrients like zinc and vitamin B6 (and a few others) and found she too had no more fear of public speaking – and she actually started to really enjoy it! She also started to sleep well and had good energy. She was skeptical that this was possible for her but curiosity got the better of her and she’s so pleased with the results. Read more and watch her video testimonial here.

Do you have a fear of public speaking ? Did it improve when you addressed pyroluria? Please comment and let us know.

And here is the info about the zinc taste test and Kelly’s funny video! Enjoy

find that the majority of my clients with anxiety, pyroluria, depression and/or sugar and carb cravings are low in zinc. I have all my clients do the zinc status test when we start working together and then we retest their levels each week until they have good zinc levels. I use zinc sulfate, a liquid zinc that tastes a certain way depending on zinc levels. – See more at: https://www.everywomanover29.com/blog/zinc-deficiency-and-using-the-zinc-taste-test/#sthash.0hriWmqc.dpuf
find that the majority of my clients with anxiety, pyroluria, depression and/or sugar and carb cravings are low in zinc. I have all my clients do the zinc status test when we start working together and then we retest their levels each week until they have good zinc levels. I use zinc sulfate, a liquid zinc that tastes a certain way depending on zinc levels. – See more at: https://www.everywomanover29.com/blog/zinc-deficiency-and-using-the-zinc-taste-test/#sthash.0hriWmqc.dpuf

My interview on pyroluria airs on The Anxiety Summit on Sunday June 15th from 9am PDT (USA time) until 8:59am the next day. You can get access to this interview and all the interviews here www.theAnxietySummit.com – Enjoy!

UPDATE: the summit concluded on Tues 6/24 – season 2 of The Anxiety Summit will be in November 2014. If you’d like to be on the notification list just sign up here www.theAnxietySummit.com

Missed this interview or can’t listen live? Or want this and the other great interviews for your learning library? Purchase the MP3s or MP3s + transcripts and listen when it suits you.

You can find your purchasing options here: Anxiety Summit Season 1, Anxiety Summit Season 2, and Anxiety Summit Season 3.

You can pre-register for future seasons of The Anxiety Summit here: www.theAnxietySummit.com

Filed Under: Antianxiety, Antianxiety Food Solution, Introversion, Pyroluria, The Anxiety Summit Tagged With: pyroluria, the antianxiety food solution, the anxiety summit, Trudy Scott, vitamin B6, zinc

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