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GABA helps ease symptoms of anger, rage, and dark moods (symptoms we typically associate with low serotonin)

June 30, 2023 By Trudy Scott 23 Comments

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As a result of this wonderful feedback from a mom in the online GABA QuickStart program, I’ve been looking into GABA-anger connections. I’ve been trying to understand how GABA could offer similar benefits to tryptophan/5-HTP for anger, rage and dark moods, which we typically associate with low serotonin. She shares this:

My son who is 19 and on the autism spectrum was having issues with outbursts of anger and stuttering.  These issues seemed to worsen during his senior year of high school. Since starting GABA and tailoring his dosage from Trudy’s instruction and feedback, we have seen a 90% reduction in stuttering and 80% reduction in anger and outbursts.  We have done many supplemental protocols over the years and this is one of the few we have seen have an impact.

I am so happy for this young man and his family, and was also very intrigued. I’ve seen GABA help with stuttering. I have not noticed that GABA helps very much with anger/rage in clients but possibly because they are making other changes at the same time. Since they were in the program and he also had anxiety, we decided to continue with GABA.

I worked with them in the program over a few months and know he only changed one thing – GABA, starting low and increasing to find his ideal dose (with my guidance).

So I started to dig into the research, search through prior blog posts and ask on Facebook and the feedback is robust – folks are seeing GABA help with symptoms of anger and rage.

I share a few case studies below: how PharmaGABA helps a 9 year old boy with rages (part of his OCD/PANS), how GABA helps a young boy with Lyme-induced anger and how GABA helps a 9 year old girl with anger and dark moods (part of her PCOS).

I also share my insights with each case. And some possible mechanisms because we always want to understand why.

PharmaGABA helps 9 year old with rages that are part of his OCD/PANS

Kathy shares how pharmaGABA helped her son (on a pharmaGABA blog):

My 9 year old son had a lot of benefits from PharmaGABA. He used to have rages as part of his OCD/PANS. PharmaGaba 3 times a day was a miracle to get him through that period.

PANS is a neuropsychiatric disorder that falls under the same umbrella as PANDAS but is triggered by an infection other than strep.

If you’re new to PANS/PANDAS, I share the definition of PANDAS, from the PANDAS Network, in this blog: “PANDAS (Pediatric Autoimmune Neuropsychiatric Disorders Associated with Streptococcal Infections) occurs when strep triggers a misdirected immune response that results in inflammation on a child’s brain. In turn, the child quickly begins to exhibit life changing symptoms such as OCD/obsessive compulsive order, anxiety, tics, personality changes, decline in math and handwriting abilities, sensory sensitivities, restrictive eating, and more.”

Both PANS and PANDAS trigger OCD/obsessive compulsive disorder. OCD is typically supported with tryptophan and/or inositol i.e. these obsessive thinking and behaviors are typically related to low serotonin even when there is an infection involved. The infection needs to be addressed but the tryptophan and/or inositol help to ease the obsessive symptoms.

Rage is a common symptom when serotonin is low. Tryptophan addresses low serotonin and can have a huge impact as I share in this blog – Rage, anxiety, cravings & insomnia in 11-year old girl with RAD/reactive attachment disorder: chewable tryptophan turns things around.

However, in this instance, pharmaGABA worked for the rages Kathy’s son experienced.

PharmaGABA is one form of GABA that has been shown to help with relaxation and anxiety.

GABA helps a young boy with Lyme-induced anger

Another mom shared this on a Lyme disease post on Facebook:

One kid has developed fits of anger that come out of nowhere but the GABA seems to be able to help him to play longer periods.

Lyme disease can also have a neuropsychiatric aspect, as shared by Dr. Suruchi Chandra MD. I’ve had the pleasure of interviewing Dr. Chandra on one of the Anxiety Summits and hear her present at integrative mental health conferences.

In one conference presentation she shared this: “Lyme disease is one of the fastest growing infectious diseases in the United States. It can remain dormant for years and then later mimic a number of psychiatric illnesses, including anxiety disorders, mood disturbances, psychosis, and autism-like behaviors. It can be further complicated by the presence of co-infections.”

Anger and rage are also common symptoms. In one study, “Lyme rage” is described as an anger episode that “had a very abrupt onset and was extremely intense and often with minimal cognitive control.”

Yet again, we often see GABA help ease some of the anxiety symptoms, as I share here – GABA helps with Lyme anxiety (while addressing the underlying disease).

However in this instance, GABA helped with her son’s anger symptoms induced by the Lyme bacteria.

GABA helps a 9 year old girl with anger and dark moods (part of her PCOS)

Debbie was diagnosed with PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrome) and GABA helped ease her lifelong anxiety, wean off anxiety medication, ovulate each month and stop her PCOS medications. She was thrilled that GABA helps her daughter too. She shared how her oldest daughter who is 9 has been showing early signs of developing PCOS and other issues similar to hers:

When her mood started changing and she was getting angry out of nowhere and very dark and moody, I started her on a small dose of GABA. Immediately both of us saw the difference in her mood. She now asks for her “happy pills” daily because she doesn’t want to feel those dark feelings anymore. I wish this information was around when I was young. It could’ve helped so much of what I had to struggle with for years.

I typically think of tryptophan or 5-HTP as “happy pills”, and anger and a dark mood as symptoms of low serotonin.

However, yet again, GABA resolves these symptoms in Debbie’s daughter.

These are just a few of the many recent success stories I’ve heard about GABA and anger/rage.

Does low GABA anger/rage look different from low serotonin anger-rage?

This is all new to me so I honestly don’t know. We do know that low GABA leads to more of a physical kind of anxiety (i.e. felt in the body) and it’s different from low serotonin worry-type anxiety (i.e. it’s felt in the head).

Therefore, it’s possible that low GABA anger and rage has more of a physical aspect too.

I have yet to explore this aspect but feel it may be helpful to figure out if there is a difference in order to effectively use the neurotransmitter symptoms questionnaire. This questionnaire is used to decide whether to trial GABA or tryptophan/5-HTP and the low GABA section will be updated with anger/rage once I’ve gone a bit deeper with all this.

The kind of anger symptoms may well look the same and then we’ll use the clustering of either low GABA or low serotonin symptoms to base our decision for doing an amino acid trial.

Research: GABA may be critical in the neurochemical control of aggressive behavior and rage

There is no research that I am aware of where the amino acid GABA has been used to ease rage, anger or dark moods.

However, this letter, Tiagabine for Rage, Aggression, and Anxiety published in the Journal of Neuropsychiatry and Clinical Neuroscicnes in 2015 offers some round-about support to this GABA-rage observation. They are discussing patients with treatment-resistant rage and aggression and they propose that:

Gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA), the primary inhibitory neurotransmitter, may be critical in the neurochemical control of aggressive behavior.

They share that the prescription medication called Tiagabine, a selective GABA reuptake inhibitor (SGRI), increases synaptic GABA availability.

And that 20 out of 36 patients aged 15-54 years (69%)

with symptoms of rage, aggression, or anxiety in association with one or more of the following disorders: bipolar, intermittent explosive, major depression, panic disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, or substance abuse …demonstrated a good or excellent response to tiagabine, with reduction or elimination of the symptoms of rage, aggression, or anxiety.

This and the few studies on anger and glutamate (like this one) offer the most plausible explanations for the quick results we expect when using GABA and other amino acids i.e. quick as in results in 1-30 minutes.

Other than this there is not much direct evidence supporting this GABA-rage connection. GABA likely also helps quickly because of reduced anxiety, improved sleep, and being easil able to quit or eat less sugar (and in adults quit alcohol).

Based on some research I’ve found and my experience with GABA, I suspect GABA may also help in these ways over a longer period: countering a histamine reaction, reducing inflammation and impacting cytokines, improving progesterone levels, beneficial impacts on the microbiome, supporting the liver and toxin removal (such as fluorides), gut healing and reducing high blood pressure. I am still digging into the research.

I thank these families for sharing their stories so we all benefit.

I also really appreciate this opportunity to learn from you – my community – and I will always strive to keep an open mind.

Resources if you are new to using amino acids as supplements

If you are new to using amino acids as supplements, here is the Amino Acids Mood Questionnaire from The Antianxiety Food Solution (you can see all the symptoms of neurotransmitter imbalances, including low GABA and low serotonin).

If you suspect low levels of any of the neurotransmitters and do not yet have my book, The Antianxiety Food Solution – How the Foods You Eat Can Help You Calm Your Anxious Mind, Improve Your Mood, and End Cravings, I highly recommend getting it and reading it before jumping in and using amino acids on your own so you are knowledgeable. And be sure to share it with the practitioner/health team you or your loved one is working with.

There is an entire chapter on the amino acids and they are discussed throughout the book in the sections on gut health, gluten, blood sugar control, sugar cravings, anxiety and mood issues.

The book doesn’t include product names (per the publisher’s request) so this blog, The Antianxiety Food Solution Amino Acid and Pyroluria Supplements, lists the amino acids that I use with my individual clients and those in my group programs. You can find them all in my online store.

If, after reading this blog and my book, you don’t feel comfortable figuring things out on your own (i.e. doing the symptoms questionnaire and respective amino acids trials), a good place to get help is the GABA QuickStart Program (if you have low GABA symptoms). This is a paid online/virtual group program where you get my guidance and community support. Another option is the budget-friendly GABA QuickStart Homestudy program.

[The 19 year old young man/his mother were part of an earlier version of the GABA Quickstart program].

If you also need serotonin support, the Serotonin QuickStart Program is a good place to get help. This is also a paid online/virtual group program where you get my guidance on using tryptophan and 5-HTP safely, and community support during 5 LIVE Q&A calls. You can sign up to be notified when the next live launch of this program is happening.

If you are a practitioner, join us in The Balancing Neurotransmitters: the Fundamentals program. This is also a paid online/virtual program with an opportunity to interact with me and other practitioners who are also using the amino acids.

Now I’d love to hear from you ….

Has GABA helped you or your child with symptoms of anger, rage or a dark mood? And if yes, how did it help, how much helped and which product helped?

Can you be sure GABA helped i.e. is this the only change you made?

Has serotonin support with tryptophan or 5-HTP also helped? And if yes how would you describe the low serotonin anger symptoms vs the low GABA anger symptoms? Are they different?

If you are a practitioner, have you observed any of the above?

Feel free to post your feedback and questions here in the comments.

Filed Under: Anger, Anxiety, GABA Tagged With: 5-HTP, aggressive, amino acids, anger, anxiety, autism spectrum, dark moods, GABA, low serotonin, lyme, neurochemical, OCD, outbursts, PANDAS, PANS, PCOS, pharmaGABA, rage, resources if you are new to the amino acids; the GABA Quickstart online program; and Balancing Neurotransmitters: the Fundamentals program for practitioners, stuttering, Tiagabine, tryptophan

Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) in children with autism – how much is behavioral and how much is due to low serotonin?

June 9, 2023 By Trudy Scott 14 Comments

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Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) is a condition associated with Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD). It is a rare behavioral phenotype of ASD that is characterized by an overwhelming or obsessional need to resist or avoid demands, which can often lead to sensory overwhelm causing meltdowns and violent outbursts.

Although children in general may often try to avoid demands, children with PDA engage in avoidant behaviors at a greater level.

The key underlying factor is the extreme levels of anxiety associated with a loss of control, which can feel like a panic attack. Because of high levels of anxiety, they will often respond with a “No” even to tasks or activities that they normally enjoy and can spend a great deal of energy trying to gain control of situations and people.

(from an Australian PDA article: What is Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) and how can we address it? so I changed the spelling of behavioural and characterised to be American)

This is a typical overview of PDA and the common recommendations (as outlined in the above article) are all behavioral interventions: be an active listener and build trust, depersonalize requests, provide indirect praise, use humor and so on. Many parents find these helpful but the biochemical imbalances that trigger these behaviors are being ignored and/or there is a lack of awareness. I’d like to change this so more children and teens get quick relief.

There may be many different root causes such as low serotonin, low GABA, low blood sugar, gluten sensitivities, low zinc, low vitamin B6, low vitamin D, toxins, infections, phenols, salicylates etc. Today I’m going to discuss low serotonin and my rationale for reaching this conclusion. It’s also one of the quickest root causes to confirm (more on that below).

My rationale for proposing that Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) in children with autism is related to low serotonin

If we take the description above, all of these symptoms are classically found when a child (or adult) has low serotonin:

  • Extreme levels of anxiety
  • Can feel like a panic attack
  • Overwhelm
  • Meltdowns and violent outbursts
  • Loss of control
  • Spending a great deal of energy trying to gain control of situations and people (i.e. controlling)
  • Obsessional need to resist (any kind of obsessing is common when serotonin is low)

The second reason I suspect low serotonin with PDA is the timing of these behaviors i.e. later in the day. The article mentions that “A child with PDA can be very calm, cool and compliant at school and behave much worse at home. This is not because of incompetent parenting but because they have reached their tolerance levels and need to release that suppressed anxiety.”

This may well be a factor, however low serotonin symptoms are recognized as being more severe in the afternoon/evening when serotonin levels start to decline. If these children have low serotonin then it makes sense that these symptoms would start to increase once they get home.

My third reason is that low serotonin is common in autism/autism spectrum disorder (ASD).

Low serotonin is common in autism/autism spectrum disorder (ASD)

This paper, Vitamin D hormone regulates serotonin synthesis. Part 1: relevance for autism, summarizes it as follows: “The disruption of the serotonergic system is one of the most consistent observations associated with autism. Serotonin in the brain promotes prosocial behavior and correct assessment of emotional social cues.”  

Their recommendations are vitamin D and tryptophan supplementation which they say “may be a simple method of increasing brain serotonin without negative side effects.”

Testing for low levels of vitamin D and supplementing accordingly is important.

Are there other low serotonin symptoms and using a trial of tryptophan to confirm

As mentioned above, low serotonin is also one of the quickest root causes to confirm. As always, regardless of the diagnosis, we assess for low serotonin by rating symptoms on a scale of 1 to 10 (with 10 being most severe) and do a trial of tryptophan (chewed or a capsule opened on to the tongue). You will have your answer very quickly because we rate improvements in symptoms in the next 5 to 30 minutes.

In addition to the above symptoms we also look for these: worry-in-your-head and ruminating type of anxiety, phobias, lack of confidence, depression, negativity, imposter syndrome, PMS, irritability, insomnia and afternoon/evening cravings for carbs and sugar.

Lidtke is the only brand of tryptophan that I recommend simply because I see it work so well and because of quality issues with tryptophan in the past. Here are the Lidtke tryptophan products I recommend:

  • Lidtke Chewable Tryptophan 100 mg is a good for doing a trial and works when lower doses are needed as with children.
  • Lidtke Tryptophan 500 mg can be used for doing a trial. I open the capsule and use 100mg for a child. Going forward this product is helpful when higher doses are needed, especially at night. When opened it doesn’t taste very good but can be mixed with inositol or even glutamine powder or mashed banana.

You can read more on this blog: Tryptophan for the worry-in-your-head and ruminating type of anxiety, see the full list of low serotonin symptoms here and find the tryptophan products on the supplements blog here.

If you’re new to PDA, the DSM and low serotonin/other biochemical factors

Professor Elizabeth Newson was a developmental psychologist known for her work with children in the autism spectrum. This is her 2003 paper on the topic – Pathological demand avoidance syndrome: a necessary distinction within the pervasive developmental disorders

It’s not part of the DSM-5, the standard classification of mental disorders used by mental health professionals in the United States. This article, A Brief History of Pathological Demand Avoidance, offers a good backstory and shares why families want it to be part of the DSM.

Whether or not it becomes a distinct condition or autism subtype in the DSM, I’d like to see low serotonin (and likely low vitamin D) being recognized as one root cause. And acknowledging that there may be many other biochemical/nutritional approaches that should also be explored.

These symptoms are listed in the above article, in addition to avoidance behaviors, and all could fall into typical low serotonin symptoms:

  • verbal and physical aggression when feeling loss of control
  • self-injurious behavior
  • property destruction
  • refusal to participate in self-care such as bathing or brushing teeth (is this depression?)
  • inability to attend social events (is this fear and social anxiety?)
  • controlling what noises are allowed in a home, such as no music, or only certain music
  • inability to allow parents to have friends visit the home (is this also controlling?)
  • are often combative with siblings
  • issues with food, what to eat, when to eat, who to eat with
  • conflict with siblings

As mentioned above we also look into low GABA and low blood sugar (trials of GABA and glutamine will give quick confirmation too), gluten sensitivity, low zinc, low vitamin B6, toxins, infections, phenols, salicylates and so on. Of course, Nutritional and Dietary Intervention for Autism Spectrum Disorder is crucial.

Some success stories and connecting the dots with low serotonin

These two success stories illustrate how successful tryptophan and GABA can be and also how quickly they offer relief:

  • Rage, anxiety, cravings & insomnia in 11-year old girl with RAD/reactive attachment disorder: chewable tryptophan turns things around
  • Half a crushed GABA Calm for my autistic child: sleep, anxiety and sensorimotor skills (writing, horse riding and swimming) improve

This blog post illustrates similar low serotonin symptoms and end-of-the-day timing in adults with Alzheimer’s – Sundowning in Alzheimer’s and dementia: melatonin/tryptophan for the agitation, restlessness, anxiety, disturbed sleep and aggression. It’s low serotonin that is the cause, regardless of the diagnosis.

This blog illustrates another mechanism for these types of disruptive behaviors: Christmas tree phenols as a trigger for anger, meltdowns, anxiety, hyperactivity, insomnia, aggression, self-injury and autistic symptoms? There is a serotonin connection when there are phenol issues too.

Resources if you are new to using amino acids as supplements

If you are new to using amino acids as supplements, here is the Amino Acids Mood Questionnaire from The Antianxiety Food Solution (you can see all the symptoms of neurotransmitter imbalances, including low GABA, low serotonin and low endorphins).

If you suspect low levels of any of the neurotransmitters and do not yet have my book, The Antianxiety Food Solution – How the Foods You Eat Can Help You Calm Your Anxious Mind, Improve Your Mood, and End Cravings, I highly recommend getting it and reading it before jumping in and using amino acids on your own so you are knowledgeable. And be sure to share it with the practitioner/health team you or your loved one is working with.

There is an entire chapter on the amino acids and they are discussed throughout the book in the sections on gut health, gluten, blood sugar control, sugar cravings, anxiety and mood issues.

The book doesn’t include product names (per the publisher’s request) so this blog, The Antianxiety Food Solution Amino Acid and Pyroluria Supplements, lists the amino acids that I use with my individual clients and those in my group programs. You can find them all in my online store.

If, after reading this blog and my book, you don’t feel comfortable figuring things out on your own (i.e. doing the symptoms questionnaire and respective amino acids trials), if you need serotonin support, the Serotonin QuickStart Program is a good place to start. This is a paid online/virtual group program where you get my guidance on using tryptophan and 5-HTP safely, and community support during 5 LIVE Q&A calls. You can sign up to be notified when the next live launch of this program is happening. We take a deep dive into product options including Lidtke products and others if you’re not able to access Lidtke.

If you also have low GABA symptoms, the next step to get help is the GABA QuickStart Program.This is also a paid online/virtual group program where you get my guidance and community support. Another option is the budget-friendly GABA QuickStart Homestudy program.

If you are a practitioner, join us in The Balancing Neurotransmitters: the Fundamentals program. This is also a paid online/virtual program with an opportunity to interact with me and other practitioners who are also using the amino acids.

Now I’d like to hear from you

Have you been told your child may have Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA)? Have you only been offered behavioral change tools and how have they helped?

Has low serotonin (and other biochemistry imbalances) been discussed too?

What symptoms does your child have and are things worse later in the day?

Has tryptophan helped reduce the above low serotonin symptoms in your child? How much helps and how quickly?

Or do you find 5-HTP works better? If yes, how much helps and how quickly?

What other biochemical changes have helped?

If you’re a practitioner, are you hearing about increased discussion of Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) and do you address low serotonin with your clients/patients?

Feel free to post your feedback and questions here in the comments.

Filed Under: Anger, Anxiety, Autism, Children/Teens, Depression, Tryptophan Tagged With: amino acids, anxiety, ASD, autism, behavioral, behavioural, biochemical imbalances, control, demands, GABA, gluten, infections, low blood sugar, low GABA, low serotonin, meltdowns, neurotransmitters, obsessional, outbursts, overwhelming, panic attack, Pathological Demand Avoidance, PDA, Phenols, salicylates, sensory overwhelm, the GABA Quickstart online program; and Balancing Neurotransmitters: the Fundamentals program for practitioners, toxins, tryptophan, violent, vitamin D

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