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Licorice intake, the renin-angiotensin-aldosterone-system and licorice-induced adverse effects on the cardiovascular system

October 13, 2023 By Trudy Scott 28 Comments

Licorice, today chiefly utilized as a flavoring additive in tea, tobacco and candy, is one of the oldest used herbs for medicinal purposes and consists of up to 300 active compounds.

The main active constituent of licorice is the prodrug glycyrrhizin, which is successively converted to 3β-monoglucuronyl-18β-glycyrrhetinic acid (3MGA) and 18β-glycyrrhetinic acid (GA) in the intestines.

Despite many reported health benefits, 3MGA and GA inhibit the 11-β-hydrogenase type II enzyme (11β-HSD2) oxidizing cortisol to cortisone. Through activation of mineralocorticoid receptors, high cortisol levels induce a mild form of apparent mineralocorticoid excess in the kidney and increase systemic vascular resistance.

Continuous inhibition of 11β-HSD2 related to excess licorice consumption will create a state of hypernatremia [high sodium], hypokalemia [low potassium] and increased fluid volume, which can cause serious life-threatening complications especially in patients already suffering from cardiovascular diseases.

The above is from the paper, Bioactive Candy: Effects of Licorice on the Cardiovascular System and builds on the recent licorice-hypertension blog, showing a “correlation between licorice intake, the renin-angiotensin-aldosterone-system and licorice-induced adverse effects on the cardiovascular system.”

Correlation between licorice intake, the renin-angiotensin-aldosterone-system and licorice-induced adverse effects on the cardiovascular system
From: Bioactive Candy: Effects of Licorice on the Cardiovascular System

Adverse effects on the heart

As you can see from the above image, there are many ways that licorice intake can adversely affect the heart.

Most folks are aware of the issues with licorice causing high blood pressure and some folks know it can lower potassium. However, many folks are not aware of some of these more severe cardiovascular consequences caused by high blood pressure and severely low potassium:

Hypertension is one of the major concerns for our healthcare system and was the leading contributor to premature death in 2015. It has been proven to be a major risk factor of cardiovascular diseases.

Some of the mechanisms include “increased stiffness of large arteries” and “pulmonary edema …caused by the sodium retaining effect of licorice” (this is high blood pressure in your pulmonary arteries, which carry oxygen-poor blood from your heart to your lungs. The earliest symptom is shortness of breath during your usual routine).

In addition to hypertension, the paper mentions the following:

“Cardiac arrhythmias are the most serious side effect caused by licorice intake due to severe hypokalemia” (i.e. irregular heartbeat due to low potassium).
“Depletion of the body’s potassium stores can cause a prolongation of the QT interval, which is closely connected with ventricular arrhythmias and tachycardia” (i.e. abnormal heartbeats and increased heart rate).
“As a consequence, several patients experienced a cardiac arrest with a subsequent recovery.”

I encourage you to read the entire paper in order to fully understand the “correlation between licorice intake, the renin-angiotensin-aldosterone-system and licorice-induced adverse effects on the cardiovascular system.”

Who may be more susceptible to the adverse impacts of licorice intake?

There are many documented health benefits of licorice and the above paper outlines how it may even benefit the heart. However some folks are more susceptible to the adverse effects and the above paper shares who may be more adversely impacted by licorice intake:

People aged over 40
Patients with a history of cardiac disease (and high blood pressure). I’ll also add those with family members with heart or blood pressure issues
Patients who are on medicines lowering potassium levels (such as thiazide or loop diuretics)
Patients treated with antihypertensive drugs such as ACE-inhibitors and diuretics
Patients suffering from diarrhea or alcoholism, which can worsen hypokalemia
Patients with congestive heart failure or resistant hypertension
Patients taking digoxin or warfarin to avoid the risk of toxicity

The authors also state that “women seem to be more susceptible to licorice intake. A possible explanation for this gender difference are many other hormonal (estrogenic and antiandrogenic) effects exhibited by licorice in addition to its activity via mineralocorticoid receptor.” And that licorice should also be avoided during pregnancy “because the conversion of cortisone into cortisol plays an important role in lung maturation.”

These other possible factors from this paper, Licorice abuse: time to send a warning message, should also be considered:

Patients with less common causes of hypokalemia that include Cushing syndrome, Conn’s syndrome and Anorexia nervosa
Patients with prolonged gastrointestinal transit time (The amount of glycyrrhetic acid reabsorbed depends on its transit through the small and large intestines, therefore patients with prolonged gastrointestinal transit times are more prone to toxicity after repeated intake)

And I’d add these as factors to consider too:

Someone with known high cortisol levels
Someone with dietary oxalate issues and/or kidney issues. Licorice tea is listed as low oxalate on the Trying Low Oxalates Facebook group but they will be updating their spreadsheet based on a paper I just shared with them – Oxalate in Foods: Extraction Conditions, Analytical Methods, Occurrence, and Health Implications “Licorice was the highest-oxalate food reported in this review with 3569.3 mg total oxalate/100 g FW (fresh weight).” (this is higher than spinach, sweet potatoes and rhubarb which are really high oxalate)

As with everything, there is no one-size fits all and we need to be diligent about what works for us and what can cause issues.

What are the lasting cardiovascular effects of high blood pressure caused by drinking up to 6 cups of licorice tea a day?

As I shared on the recent licorice-hypertension blog, high blood pressure is one of the many cardiovascular issues with licorice – Beware! Too much licorice tea can cause hypertension even if you have low or normal blood pressure

In that case report, Hypertension induced by liquorice tea, a 45-year-old woman with hot flushes, sweating and headaches, was found to have high blood pressure and low potassium (mild hypokalemia) when she visited her doctor.

She had been drinking up to six cups of liquorice/licorice tea per day and within 2 weeks of stopping this, all her symptoms, the hypertension and the hypokalemia entirely resolved.

This case report is eye-opening because she had always had low blood pressure. I share more about this, my concerns and a very similar incident that I experienced when drinking Throat Calm tea – on the above blog.

What I do want to add is this woman’s concern about possible longer term effects. She says this: “I don’t know if I’ve had any lasting effects on my body by drinking this tea on a daily basis for over a year.” Hopefully her medical team explained much of what I’ve shared here and she was given a thorough cardiovascular work-up.

My cautions for consuming licorice in any form

I am of the opinion that licorice should be treated like the medicinal/therapeutic herb that it is and only be used when working with a knowledgeable practitioner.

This statement in this paper, The cardiovascular complications of licorice, sums up my beliefs:

The health benefits of licorice are minor compared to the adverse outcomes of chronic use which is never justified nor recommended. The long-established belief among the community that licorice is a natural healthy substance free of side effects promotes its liberal consumption and predisposition to toxicity.

I recommend ongoing blood pressure home monitoring if you regularly consume licorice in any form. I also recommend looking at the list of factors that may make you more susceptible to the adverse effects of licorice and discussing these with your practitioner.

I’d also encourage a thorough cardiovascular work-up for anyone who has observed high blood pressure and/or low potassium after consuming licorice for any duration. My blood pressure increased from 110/80 to 137/84 in just a week and it concerned me enough that I went to the doctor to get my potassium checked (it was in range but was only tested 10 days after I quit the licorice tea). I’ll also be discussing all this with my cardiologist and I’ll update this blog when I learn more.

Learning about all this and reading all this research – together with my personal experience and feedback from my community – has been eye-opening to me and hopefully these licorice blogs will help to create more awareness.

Has intake of licorice from tea, candy, herbal products, cough medicines and even smoking cigarettes caught you by surprise?

How much licorice did you consume and over what period?

Did you know about the caution to avoid licorice if you have high blood pressure? What about if you have low blood or normal pressure?

Are you more susceptible to the adverse impacts of licorice intake? And which factors do you suspect played a part if you had issues?

Feel free to share and ask your questions below.

Beware! Too much licorice tea can cause hypertension even if you have low or normal blood pressure

October 6, 2023 By Trudy Scott 38 Comments

A 45-year-old woman presented to her general practitioner with a 4-month history of hot flushes, sweating and headaches. On examination, she was found to be hypertensive, and blood tests revealed mild hypokalaemia [low potassium].

While awaiting the results of further investigation into the cause of her elevated blood pressure, the patient conducted her own research and identified liquorice tea [licorice tea] as the potential cause of her symptoms. The patient had been drinking up to six cups of liquorice tea per day as a substitute for caffeinated tea and fruit-based infusions.

The patient immediately stopped consuming the drink and within 2 weeks her symptoms, hypertension and hypokalaemia, had entirely resolved.

This case report, Hypertension induced by liquorice tea, is eye-opening because this woman had always had low blood pressure and so she ignored the small print on the box that states “not advised for people with hypertension.”

I often see this caution about avoiding licorice if you have high blood pressure (hypertension). But I have yet to see a warning on a box of tea about the fact that licorice can actually cause high blood pressure with high consumption – even when your blood pressure is low or normal. I feel the latter aspect is not as well known, which is the reason for this blog.

I’m also sharing this case report and additional information because something similar has just happened to me (more on my story below).

Here are a few more facts about this patient’s case:

She went to her doctor “with a history of hot flushes, night sweats and headaches. These symptoms had started over the preceding 4 months. The patient suspected that her symptoms were due to the onset of menopause.”
Initially her blood pressure was 162/82 and “Repeat blood pressure measurement confirmed ongoing hypertension of 150/80 mm Hg”
“Blood tests demonstrated mild hypokalaemia” (i.e. low potassium of 3.3 mmol/L).
Two weeks after she stopped drinking the licorice tea, “repeat blood pressure measurement was 128/84 mm Hg and her hypokalaemia (and other symptoms) had resolved.”

I encourage you to read the entire published case report to get an understanding of the mechanisms of licorice mediating “its effect on blood pressure via the action of glycyrrhizin on the kidney.” And the impacts on sodium, potassium, aldosterone, cortisol/cortisone and blood pressure. I will add that this is one of many such case reports in the published research.

My story with elevated blood pressure after drinking Yogi Throat Comfort tea

As I mentioned above, I’m sharing this case report because something similar has just happened to me! I had been drinking Yogi Throat Comfort tea for just over a week to soothe my throat and help after my voice loss. It contains licorice root as well as slippery elm and other herbs.

My blood pressure is typically low at 110/80 or less (sometimes as low as 102/80) and last Friday it was 130/80 which is the highest it had ever been.

I didn’t make the connection to licorice right away because I had just flown internationally from Hawaii to Australia and we were sprayed with insecticide on the plane when we landed in Australia. We all had to sit there in the toxic soup for 10 minutes. (I’ll be sharing more about all this in a future blog).

I suffered severe vertigo the next day and it was at the doctor’s office that I found out my blood pressure was 130/80. I was very surprised but he felt it could be due to the travel or vertigo or voice issues. I also know that bereavement can have major physiological impacts and increased blood pressure is one of them (I was in Hawaii for my darling mom’s memorial).

I finally made the connection when my blood pressure measured 137/84 a few days later and stopped drinking the tea immediately. Over the next few days it came down to 127/93 and then 121/90 and then 118/84. I expect it to continue to come back down to my normal low blood pressure and will update this blog when it does.

As far as symptoms, I was just not feeling myself and had a strange feeling of apprehension, spaciness and breathlessness when talking too much. These are much improved having stopped the tea. My naturopath also recommended eating a banana each day to increase my potassium levels and to have epsom salt baths to help regulate the electrolytes in my body.

I will admit there are the above confounding/contributing factors – grief, voice loss, travel, vertigo, insecticide exposure – so I can’t be sure it’s only the licorice in the tea, and I’m not willing to test it out right now.

(Update Oct 13, 2023: A week later and it’s now pretty much back to my usual low blood pressure. Over the course of this last week it measured 125/82, 118/91, 127/84, 118/85 and today it’s 112/85. I will continue to track.)

How much licorice tea is too much?

The authors of the above case report mention this about the dose of glycyrrhizin:

Experimental studies have shown that the rise in blood pressure caused by liquorice follows a linear dose–response relationship. Doses of as little as 75 mg of glycyrrhizin (equivalent to 50 g of standard liquorice confectionery) given daily for a 2-week period have been shown to cause a significant increase in systolic blood pressure (the first number).
In a survey of 33 brands of liquorice tea, the mean glycyrrhizin content was found to be 126 mg/L (range 2–450 mg/L). A cup of liquorice tea with a volume of 250 mL could therefore be expected to contain, on average, approximately 31.5 mg of glycyrrhizin.”
The European Scientific Committee on Food advises that regular glycyrrhizin doses of 100 mg/day present a risk to health, and advocate a safe average daily intake of no more than 10 mg/person/day. This is an amount equivalent to less than half a cup of liquorice tea or just 6 g of liquorice confectionery daily.

In the above published case, the patient had been “averaging around 4–6 cups per day, and had been consuming the licorice tea for about a year.” She was “unwittingly consuming daily volumes of liquorice tea containing up to 190 mg of glycyrrhizin, well in excess of the recommended limit” of 10 mg per day. It was 8 months before she started to notice the adverse effects, but I do wonder how long she had high blood pressure.

We have a home blood pressure monitor but I haven’t used it for ages and if I hadn’t gone in to the doctor for my vertigo, my elevated blood pressure may have gone unnoticed for a while too.

How much did I consume: a total of 10 Yogi Throat Comfort tea bags over the course of a week. The day before leaving I had a few cups of hot tea and was thrilled to be able to talk on my last day there. I then drank it all day on the 15+ hour flight back: I had 2 tea bags in my 2 liter / 2 quart water bottle and filled it up a few times with cold water. And I continued to do this once I was home, having it next to my bed if I woke up coughing in the night. I was probably getting 3 or 4 times more than the safe average daily intake of 10 mg/person/day.

I love licorice tea and drink it from time to time, maybe 2-4 cups a month. I’m quite surprised it affected me so quickly but have never consumed this amount and in such a concentrated time period.

Will I drink Yogi Throat Comfort tea or other herbal teas that contain licorice?

For now, I think I will – the Throat Comfort tea helped so much with my voice – but when I do I will monitor my blood pressure carefully and then make a final decision.

I also plan to dig a bit further into some of the confounding factors I mention above to see how they could possibly have made me more susceptible.

I do also have dietary oxalate issues so this could play into the effects of glycyrrhizin on the kidney. I’m finding mixed results on the oxalate content of licorice: some papers say high and some say low. But I didn’t have any of my typical oxalate reactions such as painful feet or eyes. I have, however, noticed some stiffness in my left hip the last few days so will be looking further into this aspect.

(Update Oct 13, 2023: Licorice tea is listed as low oxalate on the Trying Low Oxalates Facebook group but they will be updating their spreadsheet based on a paper I just shared with them – Oxalate in Foods: Extraction Conditions, Analytical Methods, Occurrence, and Health Implications “Licorice was the highest-oxalate food reported in this review with 3569.3 mg total oxalate/100 g FW (fresh weight).” (this is higher than spinach, sweet potatoes and rhubarb which are really high oxalate)

My takeaway messages – a warning and listen to your body

There is no licorice hypertension warning on this Yogi Throat Comfort tea box (or my Tulsi Licorice tea) and I do feel there should be 2 warnings: the usual warning about licorice if you have high blood pressure AND a general warning that licorice may also affect you if you have low or normal blood pressure.

My other takeaway message is this: listen to your body and get checked out when things don’t seem as they should be.

Has something like this happened to you? How much licorice tea did you consume, which brand and over what period?

Do you typically have low blood pressure and were you also caught by surprise?

Did you know about the caution to avoid licorice if you have high blood pressure?

And what about the fact that licorice may also affect you if you have low or normal blood pressure?

Feel free to share and ask your questions below.

GABA and taurine reduce high blood pressure: the anxiety connection and what do when on blood pressure medication or if blood pressure is already low

September 1, 2023 By Trudy Scott 18 Comments

Gamma-amino butyric acid (GABA) is an amino acid that used as a supplement to help ease physical anxiety and help with insomnia, and a host of other symptoms ranging from pain to throat spasms (you can see the most recent list of symptoms here)

Research shows that GABA lowers blood pressure too. This has implications if you have high blood pressure/hypertension and are currently taking blood pressure medication or if you happen to have low blood pressure. The latter is already a precaution I review with my clients i.e. to watch the use of GABA when blood pressure is low. But we do need to add another precaution to cover folks already on blood pressure medications. Read on to learn about these precautions and what they may mean for you, and to read about the GABA (and taurine) hypertension research. And the fact that anxiety is common when you have high blood pressure and can actually be a driving factor.

This paper, United States Pharmacopeia (USP) Safety Review of Gamma-Aminobutyric Acid (GABA), published in 2021, reports the results of a 4-week study that investigated the tolerability of GABA supplementation in mildly hypertensive but otherwise healthy adults:

The authors first established an optimum dose in mildly hypertensive subjects (SBP/systolic blood pressure between 130 and 180 mm Hg) who were randomized to receive oral doses of GABA at 0 (placebo), 20, 40, or 80 mg/day for 4 weeks.

An intake of 80 mg/day of GABA was associated with a significant reduction of the BP in adults with mild hypertension, and no adverse effects were reported.

A subsequent study evaluated long-term effects of GABA at 80 mg daily versus placebo in mildly hypertensive subjects for 8 weeks:

At the end of the 8-week study, SBP [systolic blood pressure i.e. the top number] and DBP [diastolic blood pressure i.e. the bottom number] were on average 5% lower in all the subjects who received 80 mg/day of GABA compared to participants in the placebo group whose blood pressure levels remained above normal.

This is a substantial reduction when 80 mg of GABA a day is considered a very low dose. I typically have my anxious clients start with 125mg GABA and increase from there. They may end up using 125 mg GABA 3 or 4 times a day and sometimes 250 mg a few times a day.

I’m not suggesting using only GABA or taurine (more on this below) when blood pressure is high as there can be many variables and root causes. I would, however, like to see GABA be given more consideration, especially when anxiety is a symptom too.

The existing GABA precautions: a new one if you are taking medication for high blood pressure

If you are currently taking blood pressure medication for high blood pressure and plan to do a trial of GABA, it’s worth monitoring your blood pressure and discussing with your prescribing doctor. GABA may lower your blood pressure enough that your medication can be reduced or possibly stopped. The above paper states this:

Because some studies showed that GABA was associated with decreases in blood pressure, it is conceivable that concurrent use of GABA with anti-hypertensive medications could increase risk of hypotension [low blood pressure].

I have now added this as a new precaution – High blood pressure and on blood pressure medications: GABA, taurine. You can see it on the Amino Acid Precautions blog.

The existing GABA precautions: watch when you have low blood pressure and don’t use when pregnant or nursing

As you can read in the amino acids chapter of my book and on the above precautions blog, there is already a precaution stating to watch the use of GABA when you have low blood pressure. It’s worth being aware of but is not something I’ve actually seen to be an issue. Occasionally folks reduce their GABA dose because they feel light-headed.

This precaution is already addressed – not to use GABA when pregnant or nursing – but it’s worth repeating here as it’s a frequent question I am asked . The above paper states:

Caution is advised for pregnant and lactating women since GABA can affect neurotransmitters and the endocrine system, i.e., increases in growth hormone and prolactin levels.

Taurine: hypertension, stroke and heart disease

You’ll notice taurine grouped with GABA on the list of precautions. Based on the research, this amino acid also helps reduce blood pressure and is cardio-protective: “Advances in extensive studies on experimental models indicate that taurine is preventive against hypertension, stroke and atherosclerotic arterial diseases.”

This is one of the proposed mechanisms of taurine for lowering blood pressure : “The preventive mechanisms of taurine were ascribed to sympathetic modulation for reducing blood pressure (BP) and anti-inflammatory action.” GABA works in a similar way.

The same precautions would apply: low blood pressure and high blood pressure with blood pressure medication.

As I mentioned above, there is more to hypertension than adding only taurine or GABA. This book by Dr. Mark Houston MD, is an excellent resource – What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About(TM): Hypertension: The Revolutionary Nutrition and Lifestyle Program to Help Fight High Blood Pressure (my Amazon link).

He does mention taurine and recommends 1 to 1.5 g of taurine twice a day for high blood pressure. He does not mention GABA supplementation but does mention how vitamin B6 is important for GABA and serotonin production and improving sympathetic function.

Stress, anxiety and fear affect blood pressure and GABA helps

Dr. Houston shares that “numerous studies have linked stress, anxiety, fear and other negative emotions to an elevation in blood pressure. Conversely, as stress decreases, so does blood pressure. ”

This supports my comments above about giving GABA more consideration when it comes to high blood pressure, especially when anxiety is a symptom too. Here are some cases studies:

When GABA is not available taurine is a viable option for anxiety and hypertension.

Resources if you are new to using amino acids as supplements

If you suspect low levels of any of the neurotransmitters and do not yet have my book, The Antianxiety Food Solution – How the Foods You Eat Can Help You Calm Your Anxious Mind, Improve Your Mood, and End Cravings, I highly recommend getting it and reading it before jumping in and using amino acids on your own so you are knowledgeable. And be sure to share it with the practitioner/health team you or your loved one is working with.

There is an entire chapter on the amino acids and they are discussed throughout the book in the sections on gut health, gluten, blood sugar control, sugar cravings, anxiety and mood issues.

The book doesn’t include product names (per the publisher’s request) so this blog, The Antianxiety Food Solution Amino Acid and Pyroluria Supplements, lists the amino acids that I use with my individual clients and those in my group programs. You can find them all in my online store.

If, after reading this blog and my book, you don’t feel comfortable figuring things out on your own (i.e. doing the symptoms questionnaire and respective amino acids trials), a good place to get help is the GABA QuickStart Program (if you have low GABA symptoms too). This is a paid online/virtual group program where you get my guidance and community support.

If you are a practitioner, join us in The Balancing Neurotransmitters: the Fundamentals program. This is also a paid online/virtual program with an opportunity to interact with me and other practitioners who are also using the amino acids.

If you have low blood pressure, has GABA (or taurine) been an issue for you?

Do you have high blood pressure and has GABA (or taurine) lowered it? If yes, how much did you use and how much did your blood pressure improve? And did you have to adjust your blood pressure medication (and which one)?

Has GABA (or taurine) helped ease your physical anxiety and other low GABA symptoms?

If you have questions and other feedback please share in the comments too.

Gelatin triggers Enid’s anxiety in 2 weeks but also lowers her high blood sugar

December 4, 2020 By Trudy Scott 59 Comments

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Are you aware that collagen and gelatin lower serotonin and may increase your anxiety and depression and worsen sleep? I blogged about this in 2017 and how susceptible individuals who are prone to low serotonin need to be aware of this and use 5-HTP or tryptophan to counter these effects. (You can read that blog here: Collagen and gelatin lower serotonin: does this increase your anxiety and depression?)

I’m sharing an example today from one of the many comments on the above blog as a reminder or in case this is new to you. It’s not well-recognized as being an issue even amongst practitioners and producers of collagen. This is also one of my most commented-on blogs so it’s clearly a big issue. And gelatin and collagen continue to become more and more popular.

As a reminder, gelatin is derived from collagen: when collagen breaks down, it becomes gelatin. Also, collagen and gelatin are an excellent source of these amino acids: proline, glycine, glutamine and arginine, but they do not contain the amino acid tryptophan, so they have the potential to lower serotonin levels.

Tryptophan-depletion studies have been done for years – using a tryptophan-deficient amino acid mixture – as a way to study the relationship between low serotonin and depression.

More recently, collagen and gelatin are being used in these tryptophan-depletion studies because they do not contain the amino acid tryptophan. This paper, Pharmacokinetics of acute tryptophan depletion using a gelatin-based protein in male and female Wistar rats, summarizes what we find in a number of studies that use gelatin for the purpose of lowering serotonin levels (in order to study the relationship between serotonin and mood issues):

The essential amino acid tryptophan is the precursor of the neurotransmitter serotonin. By depleting the body of tryptophan, brain tryptophan and serotonin levels are temporarily reduced.

What does this mean? If you consume gelatin or collagen, you end up depleting the body of tryptophan and serotonin levels are reduced for a short time. This can cause the classic low serotonin symptoms of anxiety, worry, panic attacks, fears, phobias, insomnia, PMS, afternoon and evening carb cravings, TMJ, PMS and even anger issues and obsessions/ruminations.

For Enid, adding gelatin to her weight-loss shake powder triggered the anxiety she used to experience:

I wanted to give you a sincere thanks for all the work you’ve done on this blog and for studying collagen and serotonin. I have been taking quite a bit of gelatin because I started a medically supervised weight-loss program a month ago and was adding the shake powder to gelatin to thicken it. I have a long history of anxiety but it has been better for several years. However, I have been really concerned because my heart hurts with anxiety like I used to have. So your article and the follow up comments have helped me since I would have continued to eat a lot of it But now I will stop. So thank you.

Edid also shared how the gelatin she was consuming lowered her blood sugar in 2 weeks:

What’s interesting is in 2 weeks of being on the diet and eating a lot of gelatin my glucose went from 190 (which is diabetes) to 113 which is perfectly normal. I’ve read that collagen lowers blood sugar. So hopefully it will stay down even after stopping eating gelatin.

I found it very interesting to learn about Enid’s lowered glucose and that it went down so much in just 2 weeks.

So I went looking into the research and found this paper, Therapeutic effects of marine collagen peptides on Chinese patients with type 2 diabetes mellitus and primary hypertension, stating that marine collagen “significantly reduced levels of fasting blood glucose.” The study concluded that marine collagen:

may benefit glucose and lipid metabolism, insulin sensitivity, renal function and hypertension management in Chinese patients with T2DM [type 2 diabetes] and hypertension.

This research is new to me and is a good reason to continue with gelatin or collagen and address why it’s causing her anxiety to ramp again after just 2 weeks.

My message in this blog post – Collagen and gelatin lower serotonin: does this increase your anxiety and depression? – is not to stop gelatin or collagen, but rather help you to figure out if your consumption of collagen or gelatin is causing your anxiety, depression or insomnia (or other low serotonin symptoms), or making it worse.

Once you have made this connection then you need to figure out what the mechanism is. The fact that the consumption of collagen and gelatin lower serotonin is one possible factor for susceptible folks. The easiest way to figure out if it is low serotonin for you is to do a trial of tryptophan or 5-HTP while continuing to consume gelatin or collagen and see if your new symptoms resolve. (You can read more about that here: Tryptophan for the worry-in-your-head and ruminating type of anxiety)

I would love your feedback. Do you use gelatin or collagen regularly i.e. daily or weekly? And why do you use it? How do you use it and what benefits do you notice?

Have you noticed an increase in anxiety or worsening of mood or any of the other low serotonin symptoms? Do you take tryptophan or 5-HTP to offset the fact that gelatin or collagen doesn’t contain any tryptophan and does that help?

Have you done the off/on test with collagen/gelatin and tryptophan or 5-HTP – and what was the outcome?

Have you found collagen or gelatin helped to lower your high glucose levels?

Feel free to post your questions here too.