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How do I taper tryptophan without withdrawal symptoms: a tight band around my head, brain zaps and agitated free-floating anxiety?

September 21, 2018 By Trudy Scott 25 Comments

I have not had any clients experience the need to taper or slowly wean their tryptophan dose or report tapering side-effects similar to those they experienced when tapering off an antidepressant. However, I recently had someone ask this question on the blog (and then had someone else ask a similar question) so I’m sharing these questions and my responses in the hope of gleaning some additional information (and educating you if this applies to you). I never say never and am always learning. I’m also very interested to know how common this is and what some of the underlying factors could be.

Here is the question that was asked by Lara (we’ll call her Lara) and slightly paraphrased for clarity:

I’ve been taking 1500 mg of tryptophan for 3 months, and it has helped a lot with sleep and depression. I dropped to 1000 mg about a week ago then 500mg just to see how I’d do without it. I didn’t think it was numbing my feelings, but I am experiencing a return of feeling good.

I’ve been on antidepressants before and I am feeling the same withdrawal effects as when I weaned off meds. This is exactly why I chose to not go back to pharmaceuticals. It was difficult to wean off. How do I taper tryptophan without experiencing withdrawal symptoms? Thank you for your valuable knowledge.

These are the kinds of questions I’d ask a client in this situation:

  • Was the 1500mg helping and which low serotonin symptoms were eased?
  • How did this change when you reduced to 1000mg and then reduced to 500mg? i.e. did the low serotonin symptoms come back?
  • Which antidepressant are you comparing these affects to? And how long ago did you wean off the antidepressant?
  • Which brand of tryptophan you are using? (I find Lidtke is the best quality)

Keep in mind that we always want to be sure it’s not a one-off situation. In order to be sure someone is observing mild adverse effects from a supplement I’ll often have my client stop it and then add it back to make sure. And sometimes more than once.

In this instance repeating the process may be a good idea i.e. going back to 1000mg and then 1500mg and then reducing again, carefully documenting in a food mood supplement log.

It turns out that Lara was using the Lidtke tryptophan and she was seeing wonderful benefits for her low serotonin symptoms with none of the typical SSRI side-effects:

the 1500mg before bed with a small carb helped me get to sleep and stay asleep. It also helped with anxiety and depression during day. I tend to be a worrier, have social anxiety, and get stuck with negative thoughts about myself and others. And have very little interest in life.

I was on Zoloft from 2005 – 2009. Got off of that and did Lexapro for only 6 months in 2012. The Zoloft was life changing for me but I did not like the side effects and being on an antidepressant for the rest of my life.

The tryptophan is superior to these SSRIs [selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors] – no sexual side effects, no weight gain, or anhedonia [inability to feel pleasure in normally pleasurable activities].

She describes how she reduced the tryptophan and how her withdrawal symptoms were similar to those she experienced when tapering off her SSRIs in the past:

The withdrawal effects were felt when dropping from 1500mg to 1000mg, to 500mg, then zero over 2 days and they lasted about 3 days. By the 4th day I was no longer feeling bad.

The symptoms are hard to explain – it felt like a tight band around my head, also brain zaps (this is a common SSRI withdrawal symptom many describe feeling in their head).

The worst of it was a deep agitated free-floating anxiety like you’re walking along the edge of a cliff and there’s a physical pain in your gut. Fortunately, it was only present from waking up till around 2pm.

These are questions I’d ask or wonder about

As I mentioned in the introduction, I have not had any clients experience the need to taper or slowly wean their tryptophan dose or report tapering side-effects similar to those they experienced when tapering off an antidepressant. But if this is an issue some individuals experience I’d like to know about it

I’d also like to know how long the tapering side-effects of tryptophan last and how severe the symptoms are. In Lara’s case the symptoms were pretty severe but fortunately they only lasted 3 days which is very much shorter than SSRI tapers.

There could be confounding factors and here are additional questions I’d ask or wonder about if a client experienced similar adverse tapering effects. These are questions you could ask yourself if you have experienced this when stopping tryptophan abruptly:

  • Could the prior use of SSRI prescriptions be a factor? (but I have worked with many clients with prior use of SSRIs and not have tryptophan tapering issues)
  • What else has changed in terms of stress, diet, hidden gluten exposure, or even the something like a recent introduction of collagen (which may deplete serotonin levels in susceptible folks)?
  • Are there hormonal changes that could affect serotonin levels – like in a woman with PMS or perimenopausal or menopausal symptoms? (again, I’ve worked with many women of all ages and haven’t observed this to be an issue)
  • If you are prone to the winter blues and reduced winter serotonin, could stopping the tryptophan in the winter play a role? (I have had clients have SSRI tapering issues in winter because of being prone to the winter blues and choose to work with their doctors on their SSRI taper in the spring and summer for this reason)
  • Could this also be an issue with summer blues in hot states like Arizona?
  • Could any of these play a role: a recent medical procedure, a course of antibiotics (especially fluoroquinolones) or antifungals, poor gut health, a new infection, decreased immunity or increased inflammation?
  • Could low levels of these nutrients play a role: vitamin B6, ferritin, magnesium and zinc?
  • Would using high doses of vitamin C during the “taper” help reduce some of the symptoms? (this works well as an antidote when you take tryptophan and don’t need it and want to negate some of the negative effects, so may help in this situation)

Stopped tryptophan and felt very angry and down

The other question I had about tryptophan weaning is this one from someone who shared that she had suggested tryptophan for a friend. This friend was

experiencing a lot of ruminating and anxiety. She responded beautifully and felt great. About a year later, she tried to stop taking it, and said she felt very angry and down. Is there a weaning process for the tryptophan?

This could possibly be related to the above and you could pose similar questions but based on on what I see with clients I feel this is more of a matter of stopping the tryptophan too soon while she still had low serotonin – especially if the ruminating and anxiety came back. Feeling angry and down are classic signs of low serotonin.

The questions asked were specifically about tryptophan but they could also possibly apply to some individuals who stop 5-HTP abruptly.

I’d love to hear if you’ve experienced anything like this with either tryptophan or 5-HTP and if yes please share your answers to some of the above questions.

Right now, I’m afraid I don’t have an answer for you on how to taper tryptophan without these withdrawal symptoms: a tight band around the head, brain zaps and agitated free-floating anxiety. Right now, I’m not sure how big an issue this is. If it is common, I’m hoping some of the feedback I receive may provide some answers.

Filed Under: Tryptophan Tagged With: 5-HTP, agitated, angry, antidepressant, anxiety, anxious, brain zaps, down, symptoms, taper, tryptophan, withdrawal

My iPhone was zapping me with EMFs even when on airplane mode – affecting my sleep, and making me agitated and fatigued

September 7, 2018 By Trudy Scott 13 Comments

I recently got a new iPhone 6 and after having it for a good few weeks I discovered it had been zapping me with EMFs (electromagnetic fields) even when it was on airplane mode.

It was affecting my sleep, making me twitchy and agitated, leaving me feeling exhausted and more jet-lagged than usual (I had just travelled to the USA and then back to Australia) and making my right arm/mouse arm “thick” and slow when working on my PC. I have a feeling it played a role in my worsening lower back pain too!

I was NOT happy! I was actually fuming!

I have my phone on airplane mode most of time because in the last 6 months I’ve discovered I have some degree of EHS or electromagnetic hypersensitivity. This is a very real condition and many people are not even aware that EMFs may be playing a role in their symptoms.

This abstract summarizes EHS well: Characteristics of perceived electromagnetic hypersensitivity in the general population

Health problems evoked in the presence of electrical equipment is a concern, calling for better understanding for characteristics of electromagnetic hypersensitivity (EHS) in the general population.

The present study investigated demographics, lifestyle factors, frequency and duration, coping strategies, proportion meeting clinical criteria for intolerance attributed to electromagnetic fields (EMF) and comorbidity. Using data from a large-scale population-based questionnaire study, we investigated persons with self-reported (n = 91) EHS in comparison to referents (n = 3,250).

Middle age, female sex and poor perceived health was found to be associated with EHS. More than 50% in the EHS group reported having EMF-related symptoms more often than once a week, and the mean number of years experiencing EHS was 10.5. More than half of the EHS group reported that their symptoms started after a high-dose or long-term EMF exposure, that they actively tried to avoid EMF sources and that they mostly could affect the EMF environment. A minority of the EHS group had sought medical attention, been diagnosed by a physician or received treatment.

Exhaustion syndrome, anxiety disorder, back/joint/muscle disorder, depression, functional somatic syndrome and migraine were comorbid with EHS.

The results provide ground for future study of these characteristic features being risk factors for development of EHS and or consequences of EHS.

Fortunately, I used my Cornet meter and figured out something was up. Unfortunately, it took me some time to connect the dots. I figured I wasn’t feeling that great because of my recent trip and spending time sitting in planes and being exposed to so much WiFi in airports, planes, hotels, and conference rooms. I also drive a keyless car for 4 hours! Also, when you’re in the midst of this type of thing you’re kind of slow in figuring things out!

I’m going to share the lessons I learned so they can help you prevent something similar.

Lesson #1: When you toggle airplane mode off it via the swipe up feature it also activates Bluetooth and WiFi. BUT when you turn on airplane mode when using the swipe up feature, both Bluetooth and Wifi stay on unless you turn them off first in settings! This must be the default for new iPhones (and may even reset back to this with a software upgrade).

A: as expected
B: not good
C: make sure it’s like this

A: Airplane mode off (blue color plane) and Wifi is on and Bluetooth is on

B: Airplane mode on (orange color plane) and yet Bluetooth and WiFi is still on – this is not good if you’re using your phone next to your bed or in a car or close to your body

C: Airplane mode on (orange color plane) and Bluetooth and WiFi is off (they have a line through them) – make sure it’s like this when it’s next to your bed or in a car or close to your body

Lesson #2: Watch to see if 3G goes back to 4G when you toggle airplane mode on and off. I have changed my phone from 4G to 3G in settings in order to reduce EMF exposure when my phone is on. If you don’t know how to do this: settings/cellular/cellular data options – enable 4G toggle. Some folks are saying the airplane mode toggle reactivates 4G. I’m guessing it’s specific to the phone version as it’s not an issue on my phone.

Lesson #3: When you get a new phone or any new device, check everything and even if it’s not new, upgrades to software may change things.

Lesson #4: Distance is your friend when it comes to EMFs. I believe this impacted me more because I thought the iPhone was safely in airplane mode and not emitting EMFs. I had it close to me: in my handbag during the day when out and about, on my side-table next to my head at night, on my desk near me during the day, and in my money-belt right over my belly on the plane for 15 hours flying back!

Lesson #5: Trust your gut if you feel something is off and keep searching for a solution. I knew something was off and was prowling around trying to find what WiFi had been turned on in our home and looking for new hotspots in the area (I recently blogged about how a WiFi modem with a public hotspot caused seizures, vertigo, headaches, insomnia and heart palpitations in a woman with a history of West Nile virus)

Lesson #6: Get a meter so you can be proactive and actually measure this stuff. My Cornet meter is awesome! I’m still a newbie at this but when I see red flashing lights I know I’m onto something.

I owe much appreciation to Nick Pineault, author of The Non-Tinfoil Guide to EMFs (my Amazon link) for his amazing ElectrosmogRx practitioner training. I’ve learned so much about how EMFs are impacting our health and want to share this with you because I truly believe it’s a big player when you have ongoing anxiety, insomnia, pain, brain fog and with more serious health concerns too.

I even got to see Nick at the event I attended in the USA and got a signed copy of his excellent book!

When I shared this story on Facebook it was received with much interest and two people shared similar issues. One person said this:

Since I’ve moved I’ve been using my iPhone 6 as an alarm and getting disrupted sleep every night! Time for change!

And then shared this a few days later:

I want to report that I definitely slept better without my iPhone in the room last night!.

Someone else shared this:

Since getting the iPhone 6 I have been experiencing an overactive brain when trying to sleep plus heart palpitations. I usually sleep so well and turn off my thoughts and relax with no problems. I just thought it was a culmination of work, stress deadlines and hormones.

Too often I hear comments like this: “it’s all around us – what are we supposed to do?!” There is so much we can do!

Once I made the simple change of making sure the Bluetooth and WiFi stayed off when I toggled airplane mode on, my sleep improved, the twitchiness and agitation abated, my exhaustion ramped down and my slow mouse arm started to work normally again. My back pain is slowly but surely easing too.

As a nutritionist I always use everything at my disposal and so I’ve also used GABA for my back pain and tryptophan for the agitation and sleep issues and plenty of rosemary essential oil, together with grounding/earthing on a daily basis.

Thank goodness for my Qlink too! I’d probably have been feeling much worse had I not been wearing it 24 hours a day.

My wish now is for more folks to take this seriously!

Do you use your iPhone (or other smart phone) as an alarm without switching to airplane mode? Have you checked if Bluetooth and WiFi is off when you do switch to airplane mode?

And has disrupted sleep or other issues like anxiety, agitation, heart palpitations, pain issues, brain fog or fatigue resolved when making these very simple changes?

I’d love some feedback if you have a smart phone other than an iPhone – to share what happens on your phone and how you addressed it.

Filed Under: EMF Tagged With: agitated, airplane mode, anxious, EHS, EMF, EMFs, exhausted, fatigued, insomnia, iPhone, pain, sleep

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