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Spore-based Probiotics for Serotonin and GABA with Kiran Krishnan: The Anxiety Summit 5

November 15, 2019 By Trudy Scott 9 Comments

spore-based probiotics

Kiran Krishnan is one my guest experts on The Anxiety Summit 5: Gut-Brain Axis and our topic is: Spore-based Probiotics for Serotonin and GABA.  What you’ll learn

  • How are spore-based probiotics different
  • Bacillus coagulans for depression with IBS symptoms
  • How they increase carotenoids and serotonin, and reduce inflammation
  • and more

Kiran Krishnan AS5

Kiran starts by explaining what makes spore-based probiotics different from other probiotics:

in terms of what makes them different – to begin with these are organisms that have a unique capability of covering themselves in a thick calcified protein-like coating. So it’s armor, essentially, around the bacterial cell.

This allows the bacteria to, of course. exist indefinitely in the environment. In harsh conditions under UV, radiation and desiccation.These are typically conditions that would kill off a lot of the bacteria that live in your gut. Virtually most of the bacteria, 90% of them cannot exist in that type of environment.

But it also allows these bacteria to come in through the gastric system, through the oral route, and survive the gauntlet that bacteria have to go through just getting through the process of digestion.

He goes on to explain how they can survive the stomach acid, the bile salts and the pancreatic enzymes and how all this is “a very specialized function of these microbes” and how very few bacteria have this capability.

We talk about a number of specific strains of spore-based probiotics and how they directly impact mood, anxiety, your gut health and microbiome:

  • bacillus coagulans is associated with bringing down depression, clinical depression, and at the same time alleviating IBS. And when you look at the correlation there it’s really interesting because IBS is associated with having a high risk for clinical depression.
  • bacillus licheniformis…it tends to increase the growth of other beneficial bacteria. Because one of the characteristics about these spore formers is that they have the ability to do something called quorum sensing. They get into the gut and they breed the microbial environment. They can find the overgrown pathogens or opportunistic bacteria that are causing problems. They’ll sit next to them and they’ll produce up to twenty five different antibiotics in that little micro environment to bring down the growth of those pathogens.

I ask some pressing questions like:

  • what have we seen in the research in terms of seeing changes in the microbiome if you do a stool test?
  • how Megaspore is best used when someone starts out because there is a method of titrating up?
  • why do you say other probiotics aren’t working? We do see some research showing that they are working

I find all of this quite fascinating and we do geek out a fair bit. He shares this: “what’s important to know is that these microbes had been producing these neurotransmitters and compounds before humans ever existed.”

kiran krishnan and trudy scott as5

Be sure to listen to Kiran’s wonderful interview to get a complete understanding of spore-based probiotics and how to use them to improve gut health and help with anxiety and mood issues.

You can listen to each of the interviews (and get transcripts) by purchasing The Anxiety Summit 5: Gut-Brain Axis.

If you’d like to give feedback or ask a question, please post in the comments section. I’d love to hear from you once you’ve listened in.

If you’re already familiar with spore-based probiotics please share how they have helped you. That way we can all learn.

If you’d like to ask a question, please post in the comments below.

I’d also love to hear from you once you’ve listened in to Kiran’s interview and the others.

 

 

The above statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. Products listed in this blog post are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.

The information provided on this site is for informational and educational purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for advice from your physician or other health care professional. You should consult with a healthcare professional before starting or modifying any diet, exercise, or supplementation program, before taking or stopping any medication, or if you have or suspect you may have a health problem.

 

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Filed Under: The Anxiety Summit 5 Tagged With: anxiety, anxiety summit, bacillus coagulans, bacillus licheniformis, depression, IBS, Kiran Krishnan, Megaspore, serotonin, spore-based probiotics, stool test

About Trudy Scott

Food Mood Expert Trudy Scott is a certified nutritionist on a mission to educate and empower anxious individuals worldwide about natural solutions for anxiety, stress and emotional eating.

Trudy is the author of The Antianxiety Food Solution: How the Foods You Eat Can Help You Calm Your Anxious Mind, Improve Your Mood and End Cravings and host of The Anxiety Summit now in its 6th season and called a “bouquet of hope.”

Trudy is passionate about sharing the powerful food mood connection because she experienced the results first-hand, finding complete resolution of her anxiety and panic attacks.

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Comments

  1. Debra Brady says

    November 15, 2019 at 7:52 pm

    i a?m very frustrated that i registered for the Gut Anxiety seasn 5 and have not been able to get into it even though I have registered many times. Can you help me out

    Reply
    • Trudy Scott says

      November 15, 2019 at 8:18 pm

      Debra
      The few people who contacted us with this issue found the emails in their spam or promotions folder – please look for emails from Anxiety Summit | Trudy Scott events@healthmeans.com. If you still don’t find anything please contact support@everywomanover29.com and someone on my team will assist

      Reply
  2. kayse williams says

    November 17, 2019 at 4:53 pm

    Thank you so much for offering the anxiety summit. I have listened to many of the speakers and have loved the depth and wealth of information. I’ve taken lots of notes and ordered some new supplements. I appreciate your vast wisdom and generous heart.

    Thanks sooo much,
    Kayse

    Reply
    • Trudy Scott says

      November 24, 2019 at 10:50 pm

      Kayse
      Thanks for the lovely feedback!

      Reply
  3. Bryan says

    November 28, 2019 at 12:45 pm

    I got some of these probiotics hoping it will help occasional GERD and gastritis symptoms and anxiety. I also take DGL I have heard it raises cortisol, if high cortisol is a issue with anxiety weird tired and sleep issue when they are acting up, Is DGL something to be concerned about? I used to take probiotics store bought and would have a paradoxical effect and give me anxiety or it was a coincidence, that is why I want to try again with some proven biotics. Thanks Trudy for all your info and hard work . I’m trying to figure things out with not any funds for testing except reg dr checkup stuff all came back good . Thanks any info would be great .

    Reply
  4. M says

    April 23, 2020 at 6:41 pm

    Very interesting information! Aside from taking spore-based probiotics, like bacillus coagulans, to bring down clinical depression and alleviate IBS, how can I avoid depression all together either through nutrition and consuming probiotics or other methods?
    Thank you!

    Reply
    • Trudy Scott says

      April 27, 2020 at 10:35 pm

      M
      My entire blog is dedicated to this topic of mood – primarily anxiety but much can be applied to depression too. My book “The Antianxiety Food Solution” addresses the basic food info like real whole food, no gluten, blood sugar control, no sugar, no caffeine, healthy fats, quality protein and using indiv amino acids like GABA and tryptophan for quick relief.

      Reply
  5. Pauline says

    November 3, 2021 at 5:51 am

    Wondering which brands are the best spore-based probiotics?

    Reply
    • Trudy Scott says

      November 3, 2021 at 5:02 pm

      Pauline
      MegaSporeBiotic™ by Microbiome Labs is the product Kiran has been instrumental in formulating. More here https://www.everywomanover29.com/blog/megasporebiotic-a-spore-based-probiotic-for-leaky-gut-ibs-anxiety-depression-liver-health-and-colitis/

      Reply

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