{"id":5537,"date":"2016-11-18T14:00:52","date_gmt":"2016-11-18T22:00:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/?p=5537"},"modified":"2022-10-31T15:51:36","modified_gmt":"2022-10-31T22:51:36","slug":"taper-from-antidepressant-tryptophan-amino-acids","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/taper-from-antidepressant-tryptophan-amino-acids\/","title":{"rendered":"How do I taper from my antidepressant with tryptophan and can I safely use the other amino acids?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5538\" src=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/antidepressant-tapering.jpg\" alt=\"antidepressant-tapering\" width=\"940\" height=\"492\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/antidepressant-tapering.jpg 470w, https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/antidepressant-tapering-300x157.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Today\u2019s article is based on a question I am seeing more and more on the blog: How do I taper from my antidepressant with tryptophan and can I safely use the other amino acids?<\/p>\n<p>I find my clients do better when tapering off an antidepressant (which is often prescribed for anxiety and panic attacks) when their nutritional status is solid. Incorporating diet changes and adding amino acids and other nutrients first can result in a more successful taper with less side-effects. This would mean starting with the basics \u2013 eating real whole food, incorporating quality animal protein, eating to balance blood sugar, and removing gluten, caffeine and sugar.<\/p>\n<p>If needed and based on testing results, it\u2019s important to address any other nutritional deficiencies such as low iron, low vitamin D, low stomach acid, low total cholesterol, low B12 (and whatever else is an issue), plus support the adrenals\/sex hormones\/thyroid if needed and addressing gut health like leaky gut and dysbiosis.<\/p>\n<p>Adding a good copper free multivitamin and often the addition of zinc and vitamin B6, evening primrose oil and possibly fish oil \u2013 the latter based on each person\u2019s unique needs.<\/p>\n<p>With antidepressants such as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mayoclinic.org\/diseases-conditions\/depression\/in-depth\/ssris\/art-20044825\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">selective serotonin-reuptake inhibitors<\/a>\u00a0(SSRIs), I have my clients work with their prescribing doctor and get the approval to add tryptophan (or 5-HTP) 6 hours apart from the SSRI. If they are taking the medication at night they get the approval from their doctor to switch it to the morning, and will take tryptophan (or 5-HTP) at least 6 hours later, mid-afternoon and evening.<\/p>\n<p>If they decide to do both the medication and tryptophan (or 5-HTP), they get a protocol for the SSRI taper for the future. This is important. If you are in too big a rush to start right away, it often causes more issues. It\u2019s also important to make sure you get a very slow taper protocol from your doctor. Some antidepressants are harder to taper (Paxil is notoriously difficult) and they all should be tapered really slowly.<\/p>\n<p>The plan is to start to taper the SSRI once you have been using the tryptophan (or 5-HTP) for at least 4 to 8 weeks and are seeing real benefits by using it. This translates to much much less or none of the following symptoms: anxiety, depression, insomnia, rumination, worry, negative-self-talk, perfectionism, afternoon and evening carbohydrate cravings, PMS, rage or anger.<\/p>\n<p>For some of my clients it\u2019s 3 months before they feel they are ready to taper. This may be because of feedback they have provided based on prior taper attempts and how they are feeling this time. It may also be based on what else is going on in their lives like a stressful work situation. It may also be based on the time of the year: winter is generally not a good time to taper and definitely not if you suffer from increased depression or anxiety in winter.<\/p>\n<p>The tryptophan (or 5-HTP) is adjusted up as needed while continuing to taper the SSRI.<\/p>\n<p>The doctor is always kept informed and monitors for the possibility of serotonin syndrome. I learned about the potential concerns about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mayoclinic.org\/diseases-conditions\/serotonin-syndrome\/basics\/definition\/con-20028946\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">serotonin syndrome<\/a>\u00a0when using tryptophan or 5-HTP with an SSRI from Julia Ross, author of <em>The Mood Cure<\/em>, and so I continue to caution my clients about this.<\/p>\n<p>When I interviewed Dr. Peter Bongiorno in season 4 of the Anxiety Summit (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/serotonin-anxiety-tryptophan-5-htp-medication-tapering\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Serotonin and anxiety: tryptophan, 5-HTP, serotonin syndrome and medication tapers<\/a>), he shared that he is not concerned about serotonin syndrome being an issue with tryptophan or 5-HTP dosed with an SSRI, even if taken at the same time. He <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pubmed\/11022398\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">cited research<\/a>\u00a0that found the combination of tryptophan and SSRI did not result in serotonin syndrome in any of the participants.<\/p>\n<p>Dr. Bongiorno also uses the same approach to address the basics:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>the most important thing is that we really establish all the basics and that they\u2019re in the healthiest place possible.\u00a0 Because if those aren\u2019t there, if a patient just gets off the medication and we haven\u2019t really done anything to change the underlying reasons why they got to the place where they had the mood issue, in most cases they\u2019re going to go back there again.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Some people need amino acid support in more than just the low serotonin area so we review the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/amino-acids-mood-questionnaire-from-the-antianxiety-food-solution\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">amino acid questionnaire<\/a>\u00a0and consider trials of GABA and other amino acids too. All this only applies for SSRIs and tryptophan or 5-HTP. The other amino acids can safely be used with SSRIs, and it\u2019s not uncommon to also have low GABA, low endorphins, low catecholamines and low blood sugar and need them all, but it\u2019s still best to discuss them with the prescribing doctor.<\/p>\n<p>We also review all <a href=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/amino-acid-precautions\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the amino acid precautions<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Some people choose to work with their doctor to taper the SSRI and then add the tryptophan (or 5-HTP) once they have quit the medication. I have found that this makes it much harder to do and more side-effects are seen. With the amino acids you start to get some relief right away and have hope on the first day! They also make it so much easier to quit the sugar, gluten and caffeine without having to use will-power.<\/p>\n<p>In summary, these are my recommendations for doing an SSRI taper with amino acids:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>doctor\u2019s approval to taper the SSRI and use amino acids<\/li>\n<li>address diet and nutritional deficiencies first \u2013 before starting to taper<\/li>\n<li>work with someone knowledgeable in amino acid use<\/li>\n<li>OR educate yourself by\n<ul>\n<li>reading my book <a href=\"http:\/\/amzn.to\/2f6rboz\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>The Antianxiety Food Solution<\/em><\/a>\u00a0, Julia\u2019s book <a href=\"http:\/\/amzn.to\/2gmg8wr\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>The Mood Cure<\/em><\/a>\u00a0and Dr. Kelly Brogan\u2019s new book <a href=\"http:\/\/amzn.to\/2f6n9fN\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>A Mind of Your Own<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<li>listening to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theanxietysummit.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the Anxiety Summit<\/a> interviews<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>(please don\u2019t simply read one or two blogs and jump in to this)<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>use the amino acids from day one to start addressing low levels of all the brain chemicals<\/li>\n<li>use the tryptophan or 5-HTP at least 6 hours away from the SSRI<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>I would like to add that Dr. Brogan shares that coffee enemas help her patients who are doing medication tapers.<\/p>\n<p>If you are a practitioner, join us in\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.anxietynutritioninstitute.com\/balancingneurotransmitters\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Balancing Neurotransmitters: the Fundamentals<\/a> program. It\u2019s an opportunity to interact with me and other practitioners who are also using the amino acids and helping their clients\/patients to taper from antidepressants (always working with the prescribing doctor).<\/p>\n<p>Have you used a similar SSRI taper protocol? And how did it work for you? What would you have done differently? And what advice would you give someone contemplating an SSRI taper?<\/p>\n<p>Have you found that coffee enemas have helped?<\/p>\n<p>If you are a practitioner, has the above approach been helpful for your clients\/patients?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Today\u2019s article is based on a question I am seeing more and more on the blog: How do I taper from my antidepressant with tryptophan and can I safely use the other amino acids? 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