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I am taking 250 mg tryptophan, 100-200 mg GABA. Tryptophan is helping with rumination. GABA is helping with feeling less tension in the body. I am also taking 500mg DPA. DLPA used to help me but I thought it was too stimulating so I\u2019m trying DPA now. I couldn\u2019t feel much when taking it on its own.<\/p>\n

But the combination of tryptophan, DPA & GABA is generally helping me to feel less wound up. I still struggle with rumination and I have a really difficult time making decisions. I get really overwhelmed when I have a lot of decisions to make \u2013 it sends me in a tailspin and leads to more rumination. I\u2019m not sure which amino acid would be good for that?<\/p>\n

I generally have trouble relaxing and feeling calm and I feel the tension in my body. I am not sure if I should try increasing the dosage of one of the above?<\/p>\n

I am wondering, is it important to take l-tyrosine to balance the tryptophan since tryptophan can lower dopamine over time? Or is the DPA enough since it\u2019s a precursor to tyrosine?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I get many questions like this about using both tryptophan and GABA amino acid supplements together for easing anxiety and today I\u2019m sharing some of these questions and my answers. This will also give you the opportunity to ask questions you may have related to using both these amino acids together. You\u2019ll also read many success stories like the above and how to tweak the amino acids for optimal results.<\/p>\n

Read on for my response to the above question from TT and other questions about using GABA and tryptophan together –\u00a0 how to measure GABA and serotonin levels for using with teens, adding tryptophan for sleep separately from GABA, how to test both for jaw clenching, and the precaution about serotonin syndrome.<\/p>\n

My response and feedback for TT – adjustments for even better results<\/h2>\n

My response and feedback for TT \u2026 It\u2019s wonderful that this combination is helping so much. It\u2019s a great start but there are adjustments I\u2019d consider to get even better results. The tryptophan dose is low, with a typical starting dose of 500mg so I\u2019d consider increasing this a few times over a few weeks to see if the ruminations decrease even further. This may also help with the overwhelm and decision making.<\/p>\n

Increasing the GABA over a few weeks (after the trial of increased tryptophan) may well improve her ongoing tension and inability to relax. I\u2019d want to make sure she is using GABA sublingually for the best effects.<\/p>\n

She asks about the need to take tyrosine to balance the tryptophan but I don\u2019t have clients do this as a rule of thumb and only have clients take tyrosine if they have symptoms of low dopamine. In this instance since TT mentions difficulties with decision-making, a trial of tyrosine may be worth considering, after she has increased tryptophan and increased GABA. More about tyrosine benefits here<\/a>.<\/p>\n

I do want to mention that DPA is not a precursor to dopamine but DLPA does offer some dopamine support. I share more about the differences between DPA and DLPA here<\/a>.<\/p>\n

I want to give my teens GABA and tryptophan – how do I measure GABA and serotonin levels?<\/h2>\n

I have two teenagers ages 14 and 16 who suffer from anxiety and depression. My daughter has more difficulty with depression and my son with ruminating thoughts . My father had similar issues. We have tried supplements, and medications that help a little.<\/p>\n

I want to try giving them GABA and tryptophan, but to make sure that they in fact meet the criteria you describe. Is there a lab test that measures GABA and serotonin levels? Also, how can I figure out the dose and times to give them?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Here is my feedback for Maria \u2026. The best way to determine if someone may have low GABA\/serotonin is to look at the low GABA\/serotonin symptoms questionnaire (here is that link<\/a>), rate 1 or 2 symptoms on a scale of 1-10 with 10 being worst, do an initial one-off trial of the respective amino acid and rate the symptoms again right afterwards (in the next 2 to 30 minutes). Based on this we decide if we\u2019ll continue with the amino acid and how much to use.<\/p>\n

Dosing is unique to each person\u2019s needs and timing differs for each amino acid \u2013 tryptophan is best mid-afternoon and evening and GABA throughout the day and evening if needed too.<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t use the urinary neurotransmitter test as it\u2019s not considered an accurate assessment. I blogged about this here<\/a>.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s a comprehensive approach \u2013 amino acids AND diet. This mom mentions supplements and medications but nothing about what their diets are like right now \u2013 gluten-free, sugar-free, caffeine-free, eating protein at breakfast for blood sugar control, real whole foods, grass-fed red meat, wild fish, fermented foods etc?<\/p>\n

I also suggest my book \u201cThe Antianxiety Food Solution<\/a>\u201d\u00a0 as a great place to start when you are new to the amino acids and other anxiety nutrition solutions like gluten\/sugar\/caffeine removal, blood sugar control, gut health, pyroluria etc.<\/p>\n

And this blog is a wonderful example and gives hope to moms – Tryptophan for my teenager: she laughs and smiles, her OCD and anxiety has lessened<\/a>,<\/u> and she is more goal oriented and focused on school. It\u2019s one of many similar blogs so be sure to use the search feature to find others.<\/p>\n

GABA and theanine help my anxiety, if I add tryptophan for sleep should I take it separately?<\/h2>\n

I have taken Gaba and L-theanine for anxiety for the last few years on and off as recommended by a doctor, it really does help although I still have sleeping problems. I also have a lot of symptoms on your low serotonin list so if I add tryptophan to see if it helps with sleep should I take it with the Gaba or separately?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Here is my response and feedback for Diane \u2026 I was glad to hear GABA and theanine are helping with the anxiety. I have many clients with low serotonin and low GABA symptoms take GABA, theanine and tryptophan at bedtime at the same time for improving sleep that is caused by low serotonin.<\/p>\n

Diane has already identified that she has a lot of low serotonin symptoms from the questionnaire<\/a>, so like I shared for Maria above, a trial is worth considering.<\/p>\n

We always want to capitalize on what is already working so when GABA\/theanine is helping with anxiety and offers some help with sleep we will often increase that before considering a trial of tryptophan.<\/p>\n

I\u2019m assuming she is addressing dietary factors too and other root causes that may also affect her sleep – like low blood sugar<\/a> and high cortisol<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Would GABA or tryptophan help with jaw clenching and how do I test to see if they would help?<\/h2>\n

Would Gaba or tryptophan help with jaw clenching, not grinding, which I assume is an anxiety thing even when I\u2019m unaware of any anxiety? Since I already use Gaba on and off for anxiety or if I can\u2019t sleep (only taking 200 mg) how would I go about testing tryptophan to see if it would help for clenching?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Here is my feedback for Diane \u2026 Jaw clenching\/TMJ (temporomandibular joint) issues can be related to both low GABA because of the muscle tension and also when serotonin is low.<\/p>\n

In the same way we do a trial with the amino acids for anxiety or low self-esteem (or another symptom like cravings) we would do a trial for the jaw clenching i.e. rate the severity on a scale of 1-10 with 10 being worst, do a trial of tryptophan and then GABA (separately) and rate the symptoms again right afterwards (in the next 2 to 30 minutes). And go from there, increasing each as needed (one at a time) and tracking symptom improvement.<\/p>\n

Here is a case as an example: Tryptophan ends TMJ pain, headaches and worry, and improves mood and sleep<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Precaution about serotonin syndrome with tryptophan\/5-HTP<\/h2>\n

There are precautions<\/a> when using certain amino acids and I always review them with all my clients. If they have been prescribed an SSRI, I have them discuss the use of tryptophan\/5-HTP with their prescribing doctor so they can be monitored for serotonin syndrome. With careful monitoring and doctor approval I feel comfortable having my clients use tryptophan\/5-HTP 6 hours away from their one and only SSRI.<\/p>\n

If they are using more than one SSRI and\/or a combination of psychiatric medications, the use of tryptophan\/5-HTP is not advised.<\/p>\n

None of the above applied in these situations but it\u2019s important to be aware of.<\/p>\n

Tryptophan and GABA product options<\/h2>\n
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Products I recommend include Lidtke 500 mg Tryptophan, Source Naturals GABA Calm lozenges and Now GABA Powder.\u00a0 You can purchase these from my online store (Fullscript \u2013 only available to US customers \u2013 use this link to set up an account<\/a>).<\/p>\n

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If you\u2019re not in the US, Doctor\u2019s Best L-Tryptophan 500mg and Source Naturals GABA Calm lozenges and Now GABA Powder are products I recommend on iherb (use this link to save 5%<\/a>).<\/p>\n

Additional resources when you are new to using tryptophan or GABA and other amino acids as supplements<\/h2>\n

We use the symptoms questionnaire<\/a>\u00a0to figure out if low serotonin or low GABA or other neurotransmitter imbalances may be an issue for you.<\/p>\n

If you suspect low levels of any of the neurotransmitters and do not yet have my book, The Antianxiety Food Solution \u2013 How the Foods You Eat Can Help You Calm Your Anxious Mind, Improve Your Mood, and End Cravings<\/a>, I highly recommend getting it and reading it before jumping in and using amino acids on your own so you are knowledgeable. And be sure to share it with the practitioner\/health team you or your loved one is working with.<\/p>\n

There is an entire chapter on the amino acids and they are discussed throughout the book in the sections on gut health, gluten, blood sugar control (this is covered in an entire chapter too), sugar cravings, anxiety and mood issues. The importance of quality animal protein and healthy fats is also covered.<\/p>\n

The book doesn\u2019t include product names (per the publisher\u2019s request) so this blog, The Antianxiety Food Solution Amino Acid and Pyroluria Supplements<\/a>, lists the amino acids that I use with my individual clients and those in my group programs.<\/p>\n

If, after reading this blog and my book, you don\u2019t feel comfortable figuring things out on your own (i.e. doing the symptoms questionnaire and respective amino acids trials), if you need serotonin support, the Serotonin QuickStart Program<\/a> is a good place to start. This is a paid online\/virtual group program where you get my guidance on using tryptophan and 5-HTP safely, and community support during 5 LIVE Q&A calls. You can sign up to be notified when the next live launch of this program is happening. We take a deep dive into product options including Lidtke products and others if you’re not able to access Lidtke.<\/p>\n

Low GABA can also affect sleep and cause stress eating. If you also have low GABA symptoms, the next step to get help is the GABA QuickStart Program<\/a>. This is also a paid online\/virtual group program where you get my guidance and community support. Another option is the budget-friendly GABA QuickStart Homestudy Program<\/a>.<\/p>\n

If you are a practitioner, join us in The Balancing Neurotransmitters: the Fundamentals<\/a> program. This is also a paid online\/virtual program with an opportunity to interact with me and other practitioners who are also using the amino acids.<\/p>\n

This blog is a follow-on from the previous blog on this topic<\/a>\u00a0so be sure to read that blog too. It also features many valuable questions in the comments and my responses, hence this new post. I hope this has been helpful for you.<\/p>\n

Wrapping up<\/h2>\n

Now I\u2019d love to hear from you…<\/p>\n

Have you had success using GABA and tryptophan together for anxiety, insomnia, ruminations, depression, overwhelm, TMJ etc?<\/p>\n

Have you tweaked your dosing to find the ideal doses for your needs?<\/p>\n

If yes, what doses and which products have helped?<\/p>\n

If you\u2019re a practitioner do you use tryptophan and GABA with clients\/patients with these low serotonin and low GABA symptoms?<\/p>\n

And please let me know if it\u2019s helpful that I\u2019m now including product recommendations and where to get them?<\/p>\n

Feel free to share and ask your questions below.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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