{"id":11049,"date":"2023-07-21T14:00:12","date_gmt":"2023-07-21T21:00:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/?p=11049"},"modified":"2023-07-21T17:36:04","modified_gmt":"2023-07-22T00:36:04","slug":"my-12-year-old-son-has-adhd-is-impulsive-is-a-loner-craves-carbs-and-doesnt-do-well-or-care-about-school-should-he-be-on-gaba","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/my-12-year-old-son-has-adhd-is-impulsive-is-a-loner-craves-carbs-and-doesnt-do-well-or-care-about-school-should-he-be-on-gaba\/","title":{"rendered":"My 12 year old son has ADHD, is impulsive, is a loner, craves carbs, and doesn\u2019t do well or care about school &#8211; should he be on GABA?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-11050\" src=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/adhd-gaba.jpg\" alt=\"adhd and gaba\" width=\"940\" height=\"492\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/adhd-gaba.jpg 940w, https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/adhd-gaba-300x157.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/adhd-gaba-768x402.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/adhd-gaba-610x319.jpg 610w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px\" \/><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I\u2019ve been reading your blogs and I\u2019m trying to decide if my 12 year old son should be on GABA? He has ADHD, is impulsive, is a loner, craves carbs, and doesn\u2019t do well or care about school.<\/p>\n<p>Can you tell me what supplement he could be deficient and where to purchase? He is currently on ADHD medication (Focalin) during the school year.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Janice asked the above question about her 12 year old son. I wish it was as simple as just using the calming amino acid GABA but it\u2019s seldom one amino acid that is the answer. GABA is often one of many supplements that may help and in this instance I suspect a combination of neurotransmitter imbalances (low GABA, low dopamine and low serotonin), pyroluria, other possible nutritional deficiencies and dietary factors are at play.\u00a0 Read on to hear my approach for working through what may help this young man improve his focus, reduce his carbs, actually care about school and doing well, reduce his impulsivity and help him fit in socially &#8211; and ultimately lead to him being a happier, calmer and healthier child.<\/p>\n<h2>GABA with preteens who have ADHD and spinning-type symptoms<\/h2>\n<p>I always start with one of the amino acids because we get quick results and immediate feedback. Since Janice asked about GABA, this is the GABA feedback I shared with her: I\u2019ve had good results with GABA with preteens who have ADHD and spinning-type symptoms. One clue is when the craving of carbs is driven by stress i.e. stress eating.\u00a0 I always start with the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/amino-acids-mood-questionnaire-from-the-antianxiety-food-solution\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">symptoms questionnaire<\/a>\u00a0and have the parent rate each low GABA symptom on a scale of 1-10, with 10 being most severe, ideally in conjunction with their child.<\/p>\n<p>I then have the child do a one-off trial of GABA and we observe improvements in the next 5-30 minutes. If the child reports any improvement in any of the symptoms &#8211; in this case focus and spinning driven by anxiety &#8211; the child continues with GABA and increases over the next few weeks to find the ideal dose for their needs.<\/p>\n<p>Sometimes focus issues are so severe that it\u2019s too challenging to rate symptoms before, doing a one-off trial of GABA and then rating symptoms afterwards. In cases like this, mom makes the decision to have their child use GABA before school, when they get home and possibly early evening too. Mom can observe their focus and spinning: like getting dressed and ready for school, settling down to homework in the afternoon and settling down for bed.<\/p>\n<p>Relying on feedback from school is invaluable too. Stress related carb cravings are also assessed i.e. does he seek out sugar when stressed and anxious.<\/p>\n<p>A mom shares how GABA helps her 11 year old daughter &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/gaba-children-adhd-focus-issues-irritability-anxiety-tantrums\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">GABA for children: ADHD, focus issues, irritability, anxiety and tantrums<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>My daughter hasn\u2019t been diagnosed with ADHD but has a lot of ADHD qualities. We were having a huge amount of behavior problems as she is getting older (she\u2019s 11). She has had amazing behavior at school and at home since giving it to her. She\u2019s almost like a different child. GABA has truly changed our life.<\/p>\n<p>\u2026before the GABA she was irritable, she was fighting with her teacher and schoolmates, she couldn\u2019t focus and was distracted by anything and everything, she was constantly disrupting the class and she was throwing major tantrums over ridiculous stuff (like her hair didn\u2019t do what she wanted), she was mouthy and everything was a fight.<\/p>\n<p>We are not seeing 99% of those behaviors at all anymore. She of course is still your typical pre-teen but if I say \u201cno you can\u2019t have that\u201d our \u201cno you can\u2019t go there\u201d her reaction is OK. Before it would have been a major fight or meltdown. Her teacher is reporting to me every day about her wonderful days.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h2>Tyrosine for focus issues, low motivation and low energy type carb cravings<\/h2>\n<p>With focus issues I would also consider the role of low dopamine and do a trial of tyrosine. Other clues: are his carb cravings related to low energy and is there also low motivation tied to the fact that he doesn\u2019t care about school? Are there also signs of depression or low mood?<\/p>\n<p>We go back to the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/amino-acids-mood-questionnaire-from-the-antianxiety-food-solution\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">symptoms questionnaire<\/a>\u00a0and have the parent rate each low dopamine\/low catecholamine symptom on a scale of 1-10, with 10 being most severe. Again, do this in conjunction with the child if possible.<\/p>\n<p>We only do a trial of one amino acid at a time so we know what is working. Assuming the GABA has been helping, we\u2019d do a trial of tyrosine next and look for improvements in focus, carb cravings (all neurotransmitter imbalances can lead to carb cravings), motivation and mood.<\/p>\n<p>If the one-off trial approach is not an option, tyrosine is also used before school and right after school but no later than 3pm so as not to affect sleep. Again, the above symptoms are tracked.<\/p>\n<p>In this blog both GABA and tyrosine help this teen: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/gaba-helps-14-year-old-with-tourettes-syndrome-the-tics-and-sleep-and-tyrosine-makes-him-happier-and-his-mind-sharper\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">GABA helps 14-year-old with Tourette\u2019s Syndrome (the tics and sleep), and tyrosine makes him happier and his mind sharper<\/a><\/p>\n<h2>Tryptophan or 5-HTP for ADHD\/hyperactivity and afternoon cravings<\/h2>\n<p>Hyperactivity can also show up with low serotonin, and so can something like not caring about school i.e. a low mood. A clue here is when his carb cravings are more intense &#8211; with low serotonin it\u2019s typically afternoon or evening.<\/p>\n<p>We go back to the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/amino-acids-mood-questionnaire-from-the-antianxiety-food-solution\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">symptoms questionnaire<\/a>\u00a0and have the parent rate each low serotonin symptom on a scale of 1-10, with 10 being most severe. And again, it\u2019s best to do this in conjunction with the child if possible and do a one-off trial of tryptophan or 5-HTP.<\/p>\n<p>If that\u2019s not possible, tryptophan or 5-HTP is used mid-afternoon and evening and symptoms are tracked. This can be layered in on top of the GABA and tyrosine if they are offering some relief.<\/p>\n<p>Here is a blog post where a mom shares how 5-HTP helps her child &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/adhd-5-htp-melts-have-been-a-miracle-for-one-of-my-adopted-kids\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">ADHD: 5-HTP melts have been a miracle for one of my adopted kids<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>5-HTP melts have been a miracle for one of my adopted kids. He had lots of trauma and off the charts ADHD. 5-HTP is better than methylphenidate (Ritalin) and we are now weaning off the non-stimulants.<\/p>\n<p>Just 80 mg 5-HTP in the morning is all he needs. He was super ADHD, he had a para (teacher\u2019s aide) in public school for years to keep him on track and this year at a school for ADHD the teachers were complaining that he was never on task. Now after a week it has changed his life.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h2>Addressing pyroluria, low lithium, low zinc, low blood sugar and diet<\/h2>\n<p>Janice mentions her son is a loner so we&#8217;d look into <a href=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/pyroluria-questionnaire-from-the-antianxiety-food-solution\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">pyroluria\/social anxiety<\/a>\u00a0and add zinc, vitamin B6 and evening primrose oil (and other key nutrients). Keep in mind that zinc deficiency is common and is often low with ADHD.<\/p>\n<p>She also mentions that he is impulsive. Impulsivity and ADHD is common with low levels of lithium. A big clue is a child having a roller-coaster of emotions. I use this <a href=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/low-lithium-questionnaire-and-how-we-use-lithium-orotate-with-the-amino-acids\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">low lithium questionnaire<\/a>\u00a0to assess for a need for low dose lithium (a nutritional supplement).<\/p>\n<p>I consider low blood sugar with all my clients and with this young man low blood sugar may be contributing to his focus issues, low mood and desire for carbs. The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/glutamine-calming-intense-sugar-cravings-gut-healing-low-blood-sugar\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">amino acid glutamine<\/a> helps as does breakfast and meals with quality animal protein and healthy fats.<\/p>\n<p>And it goes without saying that dietary factors must always be addressed. My book is a great resource when are looking for a comprehensive dietary approach, which is needed with ADHD and the symptoms Janice describes \u2013 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/the-antianxiety-food-solution-by-trudy-scott\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Antianxiety Food Solution<\/a>. There is also a chapter on low blood sugar, pyroluria and the amino acids.<\/p>\n<p>If you are an adult and can relate to any of these symptoms and feelings, the same process applies. Just remember this: there is no one-size fits all since we all have unique biochemistry.<\/p>\n<h2>Side effects and longer term effects of stimulant medications<\/h2>\n<p>I appreciate Janice for reaching out and asking this question. Hopefully, implementing some or all of these changes, will allow her son to stop his stimulant medication, Focalin. This medication is similar to Ritalin (methylphenidate), which can cause <a href=\"https:\/\/www.mayoclinic.org\/drugs-supplements\/dexmethylphenidate-oral-route\/side-effects\/drg-20067099?p=1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the following side-effects<\/a>: feeling sad or empty, irritability, loss of interest or pleasure, trouble concentrating, trouble sleeping (and many more).<\/p>\n<p>These stimulant medications can also play a role in longer term health effects that include <a href=\"https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/27245699\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">heart disease<\/a> and the possibility of it being <a href=\"https:\/\/www.apa.org\/monitor\/jun01\/ritalin\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a gateway drug to other stimulants<\/a>. The research on the latter is hotly debated but it is often seen clinically.<\/p>\n<h2>Resources if you are new to using amino acids as supplements<\/h2>\n<p>To recap, if you are new to using amino acids as supplements, here is the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/amino-acids-mood-questionnaire-from-the-antianxiety-food-solution\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Amino Acids Mood Questionnaire from The Antianxiety Food Solution<\/a> (you can see all the symptoms of neurotransmitter imbalances, including low GABA, low serotonin, low dopamine, low blood sugar and low endorphins).<\/p>\n<p>If you suspect low levels of any of the neurotransmitters and do not yet have my book, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/the-antianxiety-food-solution-by-trudy-scott\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Antianxiety Food Solution \u2013 How the Foods You Eat Can Help You Calm Your Anxious Mind, Improve Your Mood, and End Cravings<\/a>, I highly recommend getting it and reading it before jumping in and using amino acids on your own so you are knowledgeable. And be sure to share it with the practitioner\/health team you or your loved one is working with.<\/p>\n<p>As mentioned, there is an entire chapter on the amino acids and they are discussed throughout the book in the sections on gut health, gluten, blood sugar control, sugar cravings, anxiety and mood issues.<\/p>\n<p>The book doesn\u2019t include product names (per the publisher\u2019s request) so this blog, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/amino-acids-pyroluria-supplements\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Antianxiety Food Solution Amino Acid and Pyroluria Supplements<\/a>, lists the amino acids that I use with my individual clients and those in my group programs. You can find them all in my online store.<\/p>\n<p>If, after reading this blog and my book, you don\u2019t feel comfortable figuring things out on your own (i.e. doing the symptoms questionnaire and respective amino acids trials), a good place to get help is the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.anxietynutritioninstitute.com\/gabaquickstart\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">GABA QuickStart Program<\/a> (if you have low GABA symptoms too). This is a paid online\/virtual group program where you get my guidance and community support.<\/p>\n<p>If you are a practitioner, join us in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.anxietynutritioninstitute.com\/balancingneurotransmitters\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Balancing Neurotransmitters: the Fundamentals<\/a> program. This is also a paid online\/virtual program with an opportunity to interact with me and other practitioners who are also using the amino acids.<\/p>\n<p>Have any of the above amino acids helped your child or you with the following symptoms: ADHD and poor focus, carb cravings and low mood\/low motivation (doesn\u2019t care)?<\/p>\n<p>Has the pyroluria protocol helped your child or you be less of a loner?<\/p>\n<p>Has low dose lithium helped your child or you with impulsivity and focus issues?<\/p>\n<p>Have dietary changes helped too?<\/p>\n<p>If you are a practitioner, are you using amino acids, the pyroluria protocol, low dose lithium and dietary changes with success in cases like this?<\/p>\n<p>Feel free to post your questions and feedback here in the comments.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019ve been reading your blogs and I\u2019m trying to decide if my 12 year old son should be on GABA? 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