{"id":10956,"date":"2023-05-12T14:00:44","date_gmt":"2023-05-12T21:00:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/?p=10956"},"modified":"2026-03-06T09:42:02","modified_gmt":"2026-03-06T17:42:02","slug":"tryptophan-had-the-added-benefit-of-turning-me-completely-off-alcohol-when-i-took-it-to-improve-mood-and-sleep-during-perimenopause","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/tryptophan-had-the-added-benefit-of-turning-me-completely-off-alcohol-when-i-took-it-to-improve-mood-and-sleep-during-perimenopause\/","title":{"rendered":"Tryptophan had the added benefit of turning me completely off alcohol when I took it to improve mood and sleep during perimenopause"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-10957\" src=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/tryptophan-alcohol.jpg\" alt=\"tryptophan alcohol\" width=\"940\" height=\"492\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/tryptophan-alcohol.jpg 940w, https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/tryptophan-alcohol-300x157.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/tryptophan-alcohol-768x402.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/tryptophan-alcohol-610x319.jpg 610w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px\" \/><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I started taking tryptophan 3 years ago to improve mood and sleep (not recognizing I was in perimenopause which it helped), but had the added benefit of turning me completely off alcohol! Lol. What serendipitous timing! I use amino therapy with pretty much all my perimenopause patients now. Thanks to you and Julia Ross&#8217;s work. Forever grateful.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Victoria shared this wonderful feedback about the benefits she experienced with tryptophan on a recent Facebook thread and kindly gave me permission to share.<\/p>\n<p>Self-medicating with wine (and other alcoholic beverages) is common when we are anxious or stressed and typically we use it to wind down at the end of the day and to fit in socially. This is common when GABA levels are low and also happens due to low serotonin which declines from mid-afternoon into the evening.<\/p>\n<p>I asked what she had been drinking and how often? And if it was calming for her? This was her response:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Red wine the minute I walked in the door in the evening. I guess it was calming&#8230; maybe more reward driven? It would be my reward for getting home from work via picking kids up from sport and doing a grocery shop and &#8230; (fill in the blank) that we working mums do and then having to walk straight into the kitchen to start on dinner.<\/p>\n<p>The wine was like my little treat or reward to motivate me to just keep moving with my chores. No time to sit and unwind, just pour the wine and start chopping! Lol&#8230; I had tried to stop before but just couldn&#8217;t pick up a knife without the wine glass!<\/p>\n<p>Within days, the tryptophan made the wine taste like cat&#8217;s pee! Haven&#8217;t touched it since. No desire at all. Almost hypnosis like?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h2>How much tryptophan Victoria used and how did it help her quit?<\/h2>\n<p>Victoria used the Now Tryptophan 1000 mg at 3pm and 9pm for about a year, eventually stopping it and saying: \u201c<em>Alcohol still does not interest me at all.\u201d <\/em><\/p>\n<p>What wonderful results! A typical starting dose for tryptophan is 500 mg midafternoon and evening and she increased this to find her ideal dose of 1000 mg twice a day. She did report that 5-HTP didn&#8217;t work for her the way tryptophan did. This is not unusual as some folks do better with one versus the other.\u00a0 <em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p>She has a great explanation regarding how tryptophan helped her quit without having to use willpower. She had no time to sit and unwind &#8230;.. so she was experiencing some of the calming aspects of getting serotonin support with the amino acid tryptophan. This is a very common benefit.<\/p>\n<h2>Serotonin appears to regulate the secretion of beta-endorphins<\/h2>\n<p>It is interesting that Victoria mentions a reward\/treat benefit which is often due to low endorphins rather than low serotonin. This paper, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pmc\/articles\/PMC7796446\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Roles of \u03b2-Endorphin in Stress, Behavior, Neuroinflammation, and Brain Energy Metabolism<\/a>, states that \u03b2-endorphins, in addition to their \u201cpotent analgesic effects\u201d i.e. pain relief (both physical and emotional pain), are also involved in \u201c<em>reward-centric and homeostasis-restoring behaviors<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>However, as stated in this same paper, beta-endorphins play a role in stress-relief (common with working moms like Victoria) and are closely connected with serotonin. In fact \u201c<em>serotonin appears to regulate the secretion of \u03b2-endorphins<\/em>\u201d and vice versa. The body is fascinating and so smart.<\/p>\n<h2>Amino acids for alcohol addiction: 5-HTP, DLPA and glutamine<\/h2>\n<p>We know that amino acids help with alcohol cravings and addiction and have even been used in inpatient settings. This blog illustrates this well &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/an-amino-acid-supplement-with-dlpa-glutamine-and-5-htp-eases-alcohol-withdrawal-symptoms-at-an-inpatient-detoxification-program\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">An amino acid supplement with DLPA, glutamine and 5-HTP (and a few other nutrients) eases alcohol withdrawal symptoms at an inpatient detoxification program<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The study authors state that: <em>\u201cthe physiological craving for alcohol may be the result of a deficiency of the naturally occurring opiate like substances as well as other neurochemical deficits (i.e., dopaminergic, GABAergic, and serotonergic).<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Both tryptophan and 5-HTP support <a href=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/tryptophan-worry-head-ruminating-type-anxiety\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">low serotonin worry-type anxiety<\/a>, low mood and insomnia. Victoria happened to benefit from tryptophan. Someone else may benefit more from 5-HTP or DLPA or glutamine or a combination as illustrated in the above study. And even GABA, which can help with stress-drinking or stress-eating, as well as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/gaba-physical-tension-stiff-tense-muscles-type-anxiety\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">physical anxiety<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>DPA and DLPA support endorphins and provide the reward\/treat benefits from red wine that Victoria mentions.\u00a0 You can read about the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/what-is-the-difference-between-dpa-and-dlpa-amino-acids-and-which-one-do-i-use-for-weepiness-heart-ache-pain-and-energy\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">difference between DPA and DLPA here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h2>What if you have afternoon and evening sugar cravings instead of wine?<\/h2>\n<p>You may self-medicate with sugar, carbs, gluten, dairy instead of wine. Late afternoon\/evening cravings are typically related to low serotonin when there are other low serotonin symptoms like low mood, anxiety, ruminations, worry, insomnia, PMS etc. You can see <a href=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/amino-acids-mood-questionnaire-from-the-antianxiety-food-solution\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">all the low serotonin symptoms here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>In this case, tryptophan or 5-HTP can be used in a similar way to stop the cravings with no willpower required and no feelings of being deprived. You\u2019ll also experience reduced anxiety, improved mood and better sleep. Read more about this on this blog: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/would-using-5-htp-or-tryptophan-help-when-you-crave-sugar-as-a-sort-of-antidepressant-late-afternoon-evening\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Would using 5-HTP or tryptophan help when you crave sugar (as a sort of antidepressant) late afternoon\/evening?<\/a><\/p>\n<h2>Other changes Victoria made and how is she doing now?<\/h2>\n<p>Victoria did also share that hot flushes \u201c<em>got me in the end though and I gave in to body identical progesterone for the final year of peri<\/em>\u201d and takes estradiol transdermally now that she is in menopause. Based on seeing these benefits while in perimenopause, she is now trialing tryptophan again for increased irritability. That is a huge plus with amino acids: once we\u2019ve experienced the benefits, you have them at our disposal again and again in the future as your hormones or situation starts to change.<\/p>\n<p>I love that she now uses tryptophan with her patients. She is a physio\/physical therapist and exercise scientist turned Functional Health Practitioner having studied with IFM during the pandemic.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, I thanked her for the kind words and shared how fortunate I was to work in Julia Ross\u2019 clinic for 2 years. I also appreciate her for sharing this feedback and allowing me to share it here as a blog post so you get to learn, be inspired and have hope.<\/p>\n<p>And finally, all this illustrates that there is no one-size-fits-all and we often get unexpected side-benefits when using amino acids.<\/p>\n<h2>Tryptophan and 5-HTP product options<\/h2>\n<p>Victoria happens to respond well to tryptophan and yet some folks do better with 5-HTP so it\u2019s a matter of doing a trial of each.<\/p>\n<div style=\"display: flex;\">\n<div style=\"width: 50%; padding: 1rem;\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-11465 \" src=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/lydke-l-ryptophan.png\" alt=\"lydke l-tryptophan\" width=\"149\" height=\"280\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/lydke-l-ryptophan.png 213w, https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/lydke-l-ryptophan-160x300.png 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 149px) 100vw, 149px\" \/><\/div>\n<div style=\"width: 50%; padding: 1rem;\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-11500\" src=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/pure-5tp.png\" alt=\"pure 5htp\" width=\"183\" height=\"280\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/pure-5tp.png 262w, https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/pure-5tp-197x300.png 197w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 183px) 100vw, 183px\" \/><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Products I recommend include Lidtke 500 mg Tryptophan, and Pure Encapsulations 50 mg 5-HTP.\u00a0 You can purchase these from my online store (Fullscript \u2013 only available to US customers \u2013 <a href=\"https:\/\/us.fullscript.com\/welcome\/trudyscott\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">use this link to set up an account<\/a>).<\/p>\n<div style=\"display: flex;\">\n<div style=\"width: 50%; padding: 1rem;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-11467 \" src=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/doctors-best-l-tryptophan.png\" alt=\"nature's best l-tryptophan\" width=\"190\" height=\"280\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/doctors-best-l-tryptophan.png 271w, https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/doctors-best-l-tryptophan-203x300.png 203w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 190px) 100vw, 190px\" \/><\/div>\n<div style=\"width: 50%; padding: 1rem;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-11501 \" src=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/source-natural-5htp.png\" alt=\"source natural 5-htp\" width=\"189\" height=\"280\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/source-natural-5htp.png 270w, https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/source-natural-5htp-203x300.png 203w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 189px) 100vw, 189px\" \/><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>If you\u2019re not in the US, Doctor\u2019s Best L-Tryptophan 500mg and Source Naturals 50 mg 5-HTP\u00a0 are products I recommend on iherb (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.iherb.com\/?rcode=BAN2021\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">use this link to save 5%<\/a>).<\/p>\n<h2>Resources if you are new to using amino acids as supplements<\/h2>\n<p>If you are new to using amino acids as supplements, here is the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/amino-acids-mood-questionnaire-from-the-antianxiety-food-solution\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Amino Acids Mood Questionnaire from The Antianxiety Food Solution<\/a> (you can see all the symptoms of neurotransmitter imbalances, including low GABA, low serotonin and low endorphins).<\/p>\n<p>If you suspect low levels of any of the neurotransmitters and do not yet have my book, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/the-antianxiety-food-solution-by-trudy-scott\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Antianxiety Food Solution \u2013 How the Foods You Eat Can Help You Calm Your Anxious Mind, Improve Your Mood, and End Cravings<\/a>, I highly recommend getting it and reading it before jumping in and using amino acids on your own so you are knowledgeable. And be sure to share it with the practitioner\/health team you or your loved one is working with.<\/p>\n<p>There is an entire chapter on the amino acids and they are discussed throughout the book in the sections on gut health, gluten, blood sugar control, sugar cravings, anxiety and mood issues.<\/p>\n<p>The book doesn\u2019t include product names (per the publisher\u2019s request) so this blog, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.everywomanover29.com\/blog\/amino-acids-pyroluria-supplements\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Antianxiety Food Solution Amino Acid and Pyroluria Supplements<\/a>, lists the amino acids that I use with my individual clients and those in my group programs. You can find them all in my online store.<\/p>\n<p>If, after reading this blog and my book, you don\u2019t feel comfortable figuring things out on your own (i.e. doing the symptoms questionnaire and respective amino acids trials), if you need serotonin support, the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.anxietynutritioninstitute.com\/sqs-wl\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Serotonin QuickStart Program<\/a> is a good place to start. This is a paid online\/virtual group program where you get my guidance on using tryptophan and 5-HTP safely, and community support during 5 LIVE Q&amp;A calls. You can sign up to be notified when the next live launch of this program is happening. We take a deep dive into product options including Lidtke products and others if you&#8217;re not able to access Lidtke.<\/p>\n<p>Low GABA can also affect sleep and cause stress eating. If you also have low GABA symptoms, the next step to get help is the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.anxietynutritioninstitute.com\/gabaquickstart\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">GABA QuickStart Program<\/a>. This is also a paid online\/virtual group program where you get my guidance and community support. Another option is the budget-friendly <a href=\"https:\/\/www.anxietynutritioninstitute.com\/gabaquickstart-hs\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">GABA QuickStart Homestudy Program<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>If you are a practitioner, join us in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.anxietynutritioninstitute.com\/gabaquickstart\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Balancing Neurotransmitters: the Fundamentals<\/a> program. This is also a paid online\/virtual program with an opportunity to interact with me and other practitioners who are also using the amino acids.<\/p>\n<h2>Wrapping up<\/h2>\n<p>Now I\u2019d love to hear from you \u2026.<\/p>\n<p>Has tryptophan helped you quit alcohol easily when you could not do so with willpower alone?<\/p>\n<p>Does tryptophan also help with your low mood, anxiety and sleep issues?<\/p>\n<p>What about 5-HTP (some folks do better on one versus the other)?<\/p>\n<p>And has either tryptophan or 5-HTP helped with other afternoon\/evening cravings like sugar and other carbs?<\/p>\n<p>If you have questions and other feedback please share it here too.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I started taking tryptophan 3 years ago to improve mood and sleep (not recognizing I was in perimenopause which it helped), but had the added benefit of turning me completely off alcohol! Lol. What serendipitous timing! 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